Thanks Gary, but at this point, if someone has info on the Karmann pulley, just PM please.... I don't care about facebook, and Dave is Dave.... Grow a pair and let's move on. When I get his age, I will certainly be just as bad I am sure.... Just a warning....lol Hell, it's like a friend of mine told me the other day when I warned him he would get in trouble if he did his paperwork a certain way. His response was, I am F'd anyway, what can they do to me? My friend in dying of lung cancer. He had a valid point. Life is too short fellas, time to move on......but, tell me about the damn pulleys....Karmann only......