thanks for replies... FirebaseD you need to find out your facts!!! though your reply did prompt me to find out myself... went to main dealer and asked the service manager his opinion... he said felt and looked normal... said there will be some slight subtle moving due to hydraulic engine mounts and that if that didn't happen the engine would be damaged by internal shaking... ok i thought but "do you mind if i have the key to the other crossfire here???"... after testing that i would say they all do the same!!!... including the side to side 1/2 cm move on "pushing"... my car is "normal"... this is what i thought after it has covered only 9,000 miles... all car are different in their characteristics... i have had a lot of cars... including high performance cars... so this is my i "informed opinion"... steve