Padgett, I get it, but I drive a stick everyday, and as one of the few who experimented with auto's in the early 70's, I still can make an auto go...... I can power shift with best of them and have the busted knuckles as proof, but I like these autos, and just need to find a way to match those early days of the B&M's valve bodies of the day. I like this thread since we are being honest about the price of the cars. They are rare, and will become even more rare as the daily drivers start to disappear to the junk yards. I have a price I would take for my cars as do others, and that isn't cheap compared to Kelly blue book appraisals...It still is what someone is willing to pay in the end.