You know....that disagreement really wasn't that bad. I kind of enjoyed how you both told each other to kiss one's ***..... We need to keep things short and to the point like this when we choose to degrade one another. So, I will do as you ask Chris and not fan the flames, but point out this piece will do the job it is designed to do, with the correct material, and at a price everyone can AFFORD. Need I say COPPER inner cooler? LOL............. Sorry, Chris, it's in my character....hope we can meet in person one day.....