Originally Posted by feets

OK, so I haven't bought a Crossfire yet. Big deal. I still have the pleasure of running around in a twin turbocharged fuel injected 440 powered classic Plymouth. I'm also enjoying my little 2.2 turbo Shelby Charger (a bit tweaked) that gets better mileage than the SRT-6. Depending upon my mood, I'll even run around in my BOMBed (Better Off Modified Baby!) Cummins diesel.
You see, I'm not hurting for a car. I'm in the best possible situation. I have multiple means of reliable (and fun!) transportation without having any car payments. While I'd like to have an SRT-6, I'm not nearly gullible enough to be talked into paying more than I care to pay for that car. I'll make an offer to a dealer. If they like it, fine. If not, fine. I'll get one for the price I'm willing to pay and not a penny more. Quite simple.
I spend my professional life surrounded by high end Mercedes (we're a strong AMG dealer) and take a little drive around in one from time to time. We also deal with the Mercedes/McLaren SLR (have a black one now), Porsche (we've had a few Carrera GTs), Maserati, Bentley, Rolls Royce, and run across the occasional Ferrari and Lamborghini.
A Crossfire is a nifty little trinket but that's about it. I think it'd make a fun little runabout.
All that being said, I have a number in mind that I'm willing to pay for a car. One thing I'm NOT willing to do is throw away a full 30% of my money by signing my name. I'll let some other poor schmuck lose $15,000 and benefit from his generosity.
I do realize that some people have no concern over a puny 30% loss and sign away. It's their choice.

As for Lithia C/D/J, their sales manager lied to me three times in one breath. Then, he stated that they were still working at invoice plus on pricing despite the fact that one of the cars had been on the lot for 18 MONTHS. Most reasonable dealers punt after 30 to 45 days.
I'm in the business and therefore know when I'm being given the business.