Ok how do we handle the group buy? If they are going to ship them all to the same place, that will negate the savings because shipping is approximately the same as the discount. In order to make this work we will have to be all able to order independently with our own credit card and provide the shipping address for our own order. I don't EVEN want to get into sending all our money to one person and having him provide all the shipping info. I suppose CTD will have to tell us how to do it. Hopefully they will allow us to all get our shipping info and payment in by a certain date and have our order identified as coming from CrossfireForum.org . Then they could make a manufacturing run of the number of units ordered and ship them independently. What someone needs to do is send an e-mail to everyone on this thread to tell them of the group buy. I don't have the time or know how to do that. Maybe someone on this forum could do that relatively easily. I don't think we should do that until we have instruction from CTD how to accomplish the group buy. that way all the question will be answered.