danimal, no bullying at all. You concluded that it was a dud without seeing a finished product. Folly at best. You can continue the charade if you wish but until you see the finished product on a car you can draw only speculation. If it looks like *** I'll agree with you. As far as having to paint it I've never seen any after market part you didn't have to paint when it was something like this. So deducting points from it is silly.

Anyway, I hope you like the finished product, if not I guess there are other options.