If this forum has been in place for 13 years and there are already many topics, any chance new folk have joined in the 13 years and they may have new or different experiences. I always find it interesting when us new folk come along we are told to "Search". Yes, that is a good thought and many of us have used the Search function to find the topic ended years ago. Sometimes new ideas come to light when a topic is brought back up. Just Curious?