Time to get my hands dirty I guess. Will take a good look tonight for chaffed wires. Will see if I can sneak the relays out but looking at the positioning of them in pictures, I don't think so. If they are those type of relays I already have some. It's strange because my wife's new Jeep Wrangler had a no start condition. To shorten the story, it was the asd relay ( auto shut down ). It was over heating. I pulled it out and it looked melted. Opened up the relay and found very poor soldered connections. Had dealer replace relay under warranty and all ok. So I guess it is possible for them to fail.