Need Advice on IC Pump Problem
All,
I have been struggling with troubleshooting my IC Pump problem. It's not the normal failed pump or fuse problem.
Symptoms- The symptoms are identical to the IC Pump problem (have had this before and fixed it - I inadvertently caused this when I tested autocrossing it with the traction control disabled at the electrical block by the battery)
- When the car gets hot, after 3-4 pulls, the super charger stops engaging
- Pump is not on when car runs, even when hot, even when RPMS come above 2000
The Problem is Not- The Pump
- The Impeller
- The ground
- The Fuse
I Know Because I Have Tested- Connected a jumper wire directly to the battery to manually get power to the pump. When I do this, I can drive the car all day long and the SC never cuts out. As soon, as I disconnect the jumper wire, the water gets hot and the SC cuts out within three hard pulls. Happens like clockwork [1].
- Have done the relay jumper always on mod [4]. Wired pins 2 and 7 together on the N65 block, which causes the pump to come on and operate when the key is in the on position.
- Have logged intake air temps. The SC cuts out at ~205F and will come back on when intake air temps drop below `185F. With the pump hard wired, or the relay always on mod, the intake air temps are pegged at ~120F, which is exactly as expected if the pump is working and the impeller is in tact.
- Have done (temporarily) the fuse always on mod [2] (doesn't work because it's the relay).
- Have connected a 2 amp charger directly to the IC Pump wires and the pump comes on and pumps water when I squeeze hose (so I know the pump is good. Video for good measure [3].
- Tested power on both sides of fuse 13 (IC Pump fuse), so I know power is getting through the fuse, getting 14 volts on both sides of the fuse (also did the mod above just to make sure)
- Changed the fuse just to make sure
- Tried revving car about 2000 RPMs for a while to try and get the pump to come on
- Have been feeling the pump with my hand (so I am definitely sure when it is coming on and not coming on)
Open Questions- Could it be the relay on the PBU?
- Should I take it to the dealership to try and troubleshoot? (I fear they will not come to the right conclusion)
- Should I just run a separate circuit to the pump?
- Has anybody else had this problem?
- How the heck do I test the relay?
Other Notes- The IC pump is a Johnson CM30 and it is working fine [1]
Next Step- Figure out how to replace the relay
I'm open to any and all ideas. My brain hurts, never seen this one before :-)
[1]:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/0p9r9m8ov...fa8flFvEa?dl=0
[2]:
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[4]:
https://www.crossfireforum.org/forum...-question.html
Last edited by scottevil; Sep 26, 2018 at 12:24 PM.