Agree that the Lloyd mats fasteners are a little chintzy, but they work and who looks under the front of the seat anyway. I also removed my still almost-new-looking oem mats and stored them in the trunk to keep then pristine. I have no idea why because I have no plans to ever sell the car, but I guess if it ever appears on Mecum it will be nice to have those oem mats. And, yes, I did have the logo embroidered and also the black was a little darker than the rug. If they have a charcoal, it might be a better match.