Interesting . . . I just picked up a R170 car yesterday that had just been driven on Tuesday but when we tried it yesterday it was doing the same thing. I did not own the car at the moment so the details are thin but I had it towed to the house and I am headed out now to investigate. If it is the SKREEM I believe I saw on flea bay where you can get it bypassed and be done with it. Maybe I was dreaming . . .Keep us posted