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Old May 29, 2023 | 04:34 PM
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Default Re: Door switch on console switch group

Originally Posted by Shamrock
with the ignition switch in the run position and the doors closed and locked, momentarily ground pin 8. You should hear a slight click and/or see the lock plunger move upward. If not, you have an open circuit (broken/cut wire) between the BCM and pin 8
Nothing happens when I do this. Looks like a broken connection.

Originally Posted by pizzaguy
Here is how it works:
As Wayne said, the light in the switch is powered by the ICM, it's not part of the actual circuit involved in locking or unlocking the doors, tho it does share a ground with the switch, so if the backlight comes on, we can probably assume that pin 4 has a good ground.

With the button at rest, there will be voltage on pin 8. I don't know if this would be 5 volts, 8 volts or battery voltage of 12-15 but I'd bet it is 5 volts.
When you UNLOCK this voltage must go to ground, that is, zero or very near zero. This tells the BCM you pressed UNLOCK.
When you press LOCK, the voltage at pin 8 drops from (what I think is, again, 5 volts) to some value lower, probably about 2.5 volts. THis is due to the resistor.
This tells the BCM you want to lock the doors.

So, do you have voltage at the BCM? If not, cut the wire. Do you have voltage now? If so, the line to the switch is shorted to ground somewhere, or the switch is in UNLOCK constantly, grounding the line.
If you have voltage at the BCM but not the switch, then the wire from BCM to switch is open somewhere.

I'd measure the voltage at the BCM connector C3, pin 49. See what happens to the voltage when you press LOCK and UNLOCK. You should get the results I gave you above.

If pin 49 is at zero all the time, the wire may be nicked and shorted to ground somewhere.
If pin 49 has voltage and it never changes when you press the button, the wire may cut somewhere.

IN all cases, make sure your meter is grounded well, so you can trust the readings. I like to connect my meter ground first, then measure some known point, like the battery positive terminal, if I see my 12-14 volts of battery, I know I"m good to proceed.
The voltage on pin #49 is 12 volts, it stays the same when locking and unlocking.
I put in a spare BCM when this issue was found with no change, I have also changed the switch module also with no change. The switch it self seems to work OK as mentioned.
I am going to pull the head unit and test the wire. This is a time consuming job as the head unit has a frame that has to be removed as well.
I pulled the head and tested the yellow/green wire, 12 volts the same as at the BCM.
The twisted pair, DG (-) and WT (+) have a constant 12 volts on them these go to the CLP/SSM.
I am getting nowhere and I give up for now. I have no idea when this failed, it could have been years ago .
 

Last edited by onehundred80; Jun 3, 2023 at 11:33 AM.
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