WARNING ! WARNING ! (scam Crossfire sale)
WARNING ! WARNING ! (scam Crossfire sale)
Please beware. If you happen to be negotiating with a guy pretending to sell this car, then stop immediately. This guy is a scammer and he's out to take your money.
The advert for this car came out on autotrader a couple of weeks ago. It has since been taken down. Whether it was taken down by autotrader or taken down by the guy himself, I don't know.
I'd been exchanging emails back and forth with this guy over the past couple of weeks. And then something happened that made me realise that he was trying to scam me.
I'll copy paste some of his emails here for you to see.
The advert for this car came out on autotrader a couple of weeks ago. It has since been taken down. Whether it was taken down by autotrader or taken down by the guy himself, I don't know.
I'd been exchanging emails back and forth with this guy over the past couple of weeks. And then something happened that made me realise that he was trying to scam me.
I'll copy paste some of his emails here for you to see.
Re: WARNING ! WARNING ! (scam Crossfire sale)
Hi,
Just received your message about the 2005 Chrysler Crossfire 3.2 V6 2dr, thankyou for your interest! Note that the location on the ad is not shown correctly,that's my old residence. Just recently moved to Austria and the car ispresently in Innsbruck ready for test drive or transport. I bought the carChrysler Crossfire in the UK, it still looks and runs great, non smoking owner,accident free and HPI is clear! Full service history is available, the carstill has 8 months tax, 8 months MOT and odometer reads 27000 miles.
Reg number is TT51MUZ, number plates are included.
Considering current offers my asking price is £3.950 which includes delivery tothe UK. The car is ready to be delivered with all UK registration documents,service records, original invoice, both car keys and the bill of sale.
Kind regards,
Steve Mark
Re: WARNING ! WARNING ! (scam Crossfire sale)
Hiagain and thanks for getting back to me! I drove this Crossfire for as long aswork kept me in the UK. It's completely free of issues and initially wanted tokeep it so it was sent on trailer to Austria. I'm admitted to hospital forsurgery, replacing my TEP voice prosthesis. Just learned that insurance won'tcover "optional" replacements, in their opinion a whisper quiet,button operated prosthesis works just as fine. So I need to sell the car,preferably before month's end when I will be discharged.
If the price is right I'm including delivery to your address on a trailer withAVL International. Working in the airlines implies carrying our stuff so we'regiven these vouchers, I saved plenty and we can use them to pay transportcharges with AVL. As far as DVLA is concerned it only travels to Austria sothere's no import tax when coming into UK.
We can work with an escrow and you can have the car delivered in approximately5 days then keep it for 7 days to test drive and check registration documents.By doing so you get to test drive and check registration before releasing thepayment.
Let me know if you want it delivered, details about the escrow service are inthe attached document.
Regards,
Steve Mark
Re: WARNING ! WARNING ! (scam Crossfire sale)
Phil sorry for so latereply! I was with some medical exams yesterday and until now I was offline. Iam glad you've decided, let's go through the steps together and if we're level,we can proceed. I will draw a conditional contract with Amazon for an escrowholding account. Terms on contract will be a sale price of £ 3,950, 7 daysobligation free inspection and payment release upon registration transfer.We'll be provided with a holding account under Amazon's management in which youwill secure the payment, then I'll be cleared to ship the car. You will have itdelivered to your home address in 5 days tops and once delivered you will have7 days to test drive, have the car checked and check registration. If you'rekeeping it, payment will be released to me after registration is transferred.If you're not happy with the car or there are issues preventing theregistration transfer then we will arrange return shipping on my expense andyou will get your payment back in full from the holding account.
When ready I'll need your delivery name, address and your mobile number as wellas the name and address you need on the v5c document, I'm responsible forinitiating the transaction with Amazon and will also cover escrow fees!
When ready I'll need your delivery name, address and your mobile number as wellas the name and address you need on the v5c document, I'm responsible forinitiating the transaction with Amazon and will also cover escrow fees!
Re: WARNING ! WARNING ! (scam Crossfire sale)
After that he sent me an invoice from Amazon, which turned out not to be from Amazon at all. That's how I found out because I have an account with Amazon and I checked my account and saw nothing on there about this transaction. That's when I knew it was fake and he was trying steal my money.
Re: WARNING ! WARNING ! (scam Crossfire sale)
This is the last email I got from him:
Ijust wanted to let you know about transaction, the payment of fees is confirmednow. This being my 2nd encounter with the service, let me give you a bit ofadvice. Escrow operates on deadlines, it's best you confirm the transactionwhen money is available in your account, ready for transferring in escrow. Oncethey assign a payments supervisor and we are provided with the holding accountthere's a deadline to secure the payment and we don't want surprises. Then we'dhave to request new data, run into delays and so on. Let me know when you'reready to proceed, keep me in the loop.
Regards,
Steve Mark
Ijust wanted to let you know about transaction, the payment of fees is confirmednow. This being my 2nd encounter with the service, let me give you a bit ofadvice. Escrow operates on deadlines, it's best you confirm the transactionwhen money is available in your account, ready for transferring in escrow. Oncethey assign a payments supervisor and we are provided with the holding accountthere's a deadline to secure the payment and we don't want surprises. Then we'dhave to request new data, run into delays and so on. Let me know when you'reready to proceed, keep me in the loop.
Regards,
Steve Mark
Re: WARNING ! WARNING ! (scam Crossfire sale)
I don't know how to take a screen print. So I just copy-pasted the invoice instead.
Thanks for using Amazon FPS for this order, Mr XXXXXXXX
The next step is to pay for your item. Check out and pay to get your item as soon as possible.
Purchase Information
:
Welcome to Amazon Flexible Payments Service (Amazon FPS)Help
Thanks for using Amazon FPS for this order, Mr XXXXXXXX
The next step is to pay for your item. Check out and pay to get your item as soon as possible.
Purchase Information
Seller:
Steve C. Mark
Loaweg 47
6091 Götzens
Austria
Steve C. Mark
Loaweg 47
6091 Götzens
Austria
:
2005
Make
:
Chrysler
Model
:
Crossfire V6 3.2l Auto Coupe
Type
:
2dr Convertible
Condition
:
Used
Title
:
Clear
Mileage
:
27,000
Buyer Inspection
:
Yes (per agreement with Seller, 7 days)
Overall Condition
:
Excellent
Shipping/Transit
:
5 days
Inspection
:
Inspected
Make
:
Chrysler
Model
:
Crossfire V6 3.2l Auto Coupe
Type
:
2dr Convertible
Condition
:
Used
Title
:
Clear
Mileage
:
27,000
Buyer Inspection
:
Yes (per agreement with Seller, 7 days)
Overall Condition
:
Excellent
Shipping/Transit
:
5 days
Inspection
:
Inspected
Item's Subtotal:
£3,950.00
Shipping & Handling:
Paid by seller
Inspection Period:
7 calendar days
Amazon Fee paid by:
Seller
Quantity:
1
£3,950.00
Shipping & Handling:
Paid by seller
Inspection Period:
7 calendar days
Amazon Fee paid by:
Seller
Quantity:
1
Total for this order:
£3,950.00
£3,950.00
Payment Instructions
Payment Methods Accepted
Online Bank Transfer
BACS/CHAPS to Bank Wire Transfer
Payment Methods Accepted
Online Bank Transfer
BACS/CHAPS to Bank Wire Transfer
How to make the payment:
Payment must be submitted using our bank account details. These details will be provided upon request. We ask that you to read the terms and conditions carefully.
Important Usage Guidelines
Check that information is accurate, price is as agreed with your Seller and your information is accurate in Buyer and Shipping sections.
Check that information is accurate, price is as agreed with your Seller and your information is accurate in Buyer and Shipping sections.
Reply this email with "YES" if you are committing to purchase the item(s) making object of Invoice #77T8177X591.
Reply this email with "NO" if you want to terminate transaction #77T8177X591.
Have questions about this order? Contact Amazon FPS.
Thank you for using Amazon Payments.
Amazon Flexible Payments Service (Amazon FPS).
Earth's Biggest Selection.
Amazon Flexible Payments Service (Amazon FPS).
Earth's Biggest Selection.
Last edited by Philco; 10-26-2014 at 04:36 PM.
Re: WARNING ! WARNING ! (scam Crossfire sale)
If someone can tell me how to do a screen print I'll do that and show you the invoice as it appeared in the email. Have to say it looks pretty authentic. You would never know it was fake. I don't know what would have happened if I'd ticked the yes box. I don't ever wanna know.
Re: WARNING ! WARNING ! (scam Crossfire sale)
His emails were several days apart. One time I didn't hear from him for nearly a week. He said that's because he had been in hospital. I realise now that his infrequent replies were probably due to his big case load. Which means that there are other people being scammed by this guy as we speak. God, I wish there was some way I could warn them.
Re: WARNING ! WARNING ! (scam Crossfire sale)
It is really a shame this type thing happens. I have had eBay auctions hijacked and it has gotten so I hesitate to contact anyone responding to an CL ad I post.
I am not sure why the collecting of phone numbers, names and email addresses are important to these scammers and while he was successful in that, at least he did not get your money nor banking information.
Thank you for warning the community and congratulations on taking the time to check your account.
I am not sure why the collecting of phone numbers, names and email addresses are important to these scammers and while he was successful in that, at least he did not get your money nor banking information.
Thank you for warning the community and congratulations on taking the time to check your account.
Re: WARNING ! WARNING ! (scam Crossfire sale)
Don't worry about your name and address. All they want is to get your money. You should never considering buying by sending money without seeing the car in person and talking with the guy in person, and even there you can never be 100% sure. Deals what seem too good to be true are 99% scam.
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