My Car erased my Cd's?
I burnt three CDs on August 23rd. Just various music for the mid-life-crisis Crossfire owner, no big deal.
I play these CDs every time I drive the car (been playing these exclusively in the XF).
Ok, so last weekend, I put one of the CD's in --- Came up "Disc Error".
Tried another one, same thing.
Tried a Taylor Swift Cd - played fine.
Ok, so tonight I grabbed the three Burnt CDs. Two of them that would not play are BLANKS now!
No kidding - On my laptop, WINDOWS sees them as BLANKS!
I have NEVER heard of a CD erasing itself - or a player erasing them! My CDs are "CD-R"'s I get at Office Max. What's going on here?
I play these CDs every time I drive the car (been playing these exclusively in the XF).
Ok, so last weekend, I put one of the CD's in --- Came up "Disc Error".
Tried another one, same thing.
Tried a Taylor Swift Cd - played fine.
Ok, so tonight I grabbed the three Burnt CDs. Two of them that would not play are BLANKS now!
No kidding - On my laptop, WINDOWS sees them as BLANKS!
I have NEVER heard of a CD erasing itself - or a player erasing them! My CDs are "CD-R"'s I get at Office Max. What's going on here?
Originally Posted by pizzaguy
I burnt three CDs on August 23rd. Just various music for the mid-life-crisis Crossfire owner, no big deal.
I play these CDs every time I drive the car (been playing these exclusively in the XF).
Ok, so last weekend, I put one of the CD's in --- Came up "Disc Error".
Tried another one, same thing.
Tried a Taylor Swift Cd - played fine.
Ok, so tonight I grabbed the three Burnt CDs. Two of them that would not play are BLANKS now!
No kidding - On my laptop, WINDOWS sees them as BLANKS!
I have NEVER heard of a CD erasing itself - or a player erasing them! My CDs are "CD-R"'s I get at Office Max. What's going on here?
I play these CDs every time I drive the car (been playing these exclusively in the XF).
Ok, so last weekend, I put one of the CD's in --- Came up "Disc Error".
Tried another one, same thing.
Tried a Taylor Swift Cd - played fine.
Ok, so tonight I grabbed the three Burnt CDs. Two of them that would not play are BLANKS now!
No kidding - On my laptop, WINDOWS sees them as BLANKS!
I have NEVER heard of a CD erasing itself - or a player erasing them! My CDs are "CD-R"'s I get at Office Max. What's going on here?
I have burned and played a lot of CD's over the past couple years.
The only time my CD player in the Crossfire displayed "Disc Error" is when I put the CD in upside down...
The only time my CD player in the Crossfire displayed "Disc Error" is when I put the CD in upside down...
Ok, but when was the last time you had a CD LOOSE IT'S MATERIAL?
This is SO odd - my laptop says the CD is a blank one, that is 2 of the 3 are now blank! The third one plays in the laptop and XF normally.
I KNOW those CD's worked - had been playing them since the 23rd of August. I'm gonnna post this on two electronics boards and see what is said.
I'm lost, too.
This is SO odd - my laptop says the CD is a blank one, that is 2 of the 3 are now blank! The third one plays in the laptop and XF normally.
I KNOW those CD's worked - had been playing them since the 23rd of August. I'm gonnna post this on two electronics boards and see what is said.
I'm lost, too.
Assuming you're using CD-R's, they cannot be erased by a player.
Were the CD's finalize after you finished recording them?
CD's are written from the inside edge to the outside. At the very beginning of the write the software you're using will create a table of contents (in the very old days in the IBM world this was called the VTOC - volume table of contents) & this acts as an index of the tracks you've written to the CD. Most of the time, for whatever reason (usually a bad CD), this TOC will become corrupted & unreadable.
To your CD player & your laptop the CD becomes "blank" because the computer or player cannot read the index. The data/music is still there but useless because the index is shot. You can probably still see the burnt data by holding the CD up to a light & peeking at it from the side. Once again, assuming you're using a CD-R, you probably won't be able to reformat the CD - which doesn't really help 'cause if it went bad once the odds are it will go bad again!
Finalizing the CD helps because that means that nearly every CD player/reader can then find the TOC & knows what the heck is on it. Leaving a CD unfinalized is risky because of the very same thing happening - loss of the TOC.
You probably have a funky batch of CD's. Last year I purchased a jumbo stack of Sony CD's & I'd bet that probably better than a third of them are unwritable. This is one reason why CD's aren't usually used in the IT world for backing up data - their longevity is questionable!
Were the CD's finalize after you finished recording them?
CD's are written from the inside edge to the outside. At the very beginning of the write the software you're using will create a table of contents (in the very old days in the IBM world this was called the VTOC - volume table of contents) & this acts as an index of the tracks you've written to the CD. Most of the time, for whatever reason (usually a bad CD), this TOC will become corrupted & unreadable.
To your CD player & your laptop the CD becomes "blank" because the computer or player cannot read the index. The data/music is still there but useless because the index is shot. You can probably still see the burnt data by holding the CD up to a light & peeking at it from the side. Once again, assuming you're using a CD-R, you probably won't be able to reformat the CD - which doesn't really help 'cause if it went bad once the odds are it will go bad again!
Finalizing the CD helps because that means that nearly every CD player/reader can then find the TOC & knows what the heck is on it. Leaving a CD unfinalized is risky because of the very same thing happening - loss of the TOC.
You probably have a funky batch of CD's. Last year I purchased a jumbo stack of Sony CD's & I'd bet that probably better than a third of them are unwritable. This is one reason why CD's aren't usually used in the IT world for backing up data - their longevity is questionable!
Last edited by Kurts; Sep 18, 2009 at 10:27 AM.
I did finalize, but your post makes sense. I did NOT try to write to them again - might try that tonight just to see what it tells me.
The only time I have heard of something like this is bad media - what Kurts said - or heat. I have seen CDrs get so hot they become unplayable. You didn't leave any CDs on the seat with the top down or anything did you?
No, I am too obsessive for that! I keep CD's in their cases and in the console compartment. Too worried that I'll get one dirty and introduce said dirt into the player.
But I am sure willing to say it 's bad media - can't believe the XF player did this, it has no "burning" capability, right? I mean, why would it?
And now that I think about it, CD's do tend to go bad quite a bit - not as bad as those little 3.5 inch black thingys from the 80's but still....
But I am sure willing to say it 's bad media - can't believe the XF player did this, it has no "burning" capability, right? I mean, why would it?
And now that I think about it, CD's do tend to go bad quite a bit - not as bad as those little 3.5 inch black thingys from the 80's but still....
Originally Posted by pizzaguy
And now that I think about it, CD's do tend to go bad quite a bit - not as bad as those little 3.5 inch black thingys from the 80's but still....
Yeah, I did that back in the 70s in college. One little typo in Fortran or Cobol would generate the most beautiful stream of error messages, sometimes 10 or 12 pages long. Those were the good old days,
Unlikely that the CDs are "erased" as that would mean that you have some sort of rewriteable media.
The more likely suspect is that the inner ring of the CD, which is essentially the equivalent of a master boot record on a hard drive, has been damaged.
The damage would have be to noticeable under visible light.
The more likely suspect is that the inner ring of the CD, which is essentially the equivalent of a master boot record on a hard drive, has been damaged.
The damage would have be to noticeable under visible light.
HOW STUPID CAN I BE?
I was just sitting here, came home early, and was gonna burn new CD's. Put a blank in and WOW, one of my 'bad' Cd's material was on it already.
I know what I did - two days before the CD's were "erased" I brought them in the house to label them. I must have labeled one right - and the other two I wrote the lists on blank CDs and then put the burnt ones on the blank CD stack and the blank ones in the car.
Sorry everyone - this was a REAL stupid thread!
I was just sitting here, came home early, and was gonna burn new CD's. Put a blank in and WOW, one of my 'bad' Cd's material was on it already.
I know what I did - two days before the CD's were "erased" I brought them in the house to label them. I must have labeled one right - and the other two I wrote the lists on blank CDs and then put the burnt ones on the blank CD stack and the blank ones in the car.
Sorry everyone - this was a REAL stupid thread!




