My dad and i are arguing about this now. I have a 04 crossfire....can i super charge it?

 

NO.....lol..... WELL, not easily.... Only one guy has done it successfully, and he wasn't satisfied... Don't even ask about turboing it either...that has yet to be done within reason. That isn't to say some haven't done both, just not very easily done....and those who have put a lot of man hours and talent into it...So, it is possible to turbo or supercharge anything if you have the time, talent and money....but is it practical....NO>...

 

Something you can easily do, use the search button.
This has been covered many many many many times. Seems like once a week there is a new thread on "can I turbo my xf". You can do anything you want as long as you can afford it.

 

Doesn't make any financial sense to boost a crossfire. There are much better options out there.. Cars like s2000 for example has unlimited aftermarket support and options and can easily handle over 400whp on the stock block.

 

If financial sense is what we had to have.. this would be the "Smart Car" forum wouldn't it..

 

Actually it would be, I picked up an SRT because they depreciated like a brick so it was the biggest bang for the buck in terms of speed/quality/reliability and getting it into 11s for under $2k. There is absolutely no sense to spend close to 50% of the car's value getting it boosted which would be the case for the regular crossfire. It would make way more sense selling it and picking up/modding an SRT.

 

You just stated financial sense was not your reason for purchase didn't you.

Sounds more like "I can go fast for x amount of dollars"...I'm sure someone will build a shrine to your financial sense somewhere..

 

Can you super charge a n/a crossfire?

Ask rcompart here on the forum
He will advise you to not try this and explain to you why and what will probably happen
He has done it with unfavorable results

 

For roughly $5 grand and your own sweat labor, you can get all the SRT6 drivetrain components and electronics to do a transplant. Other than that, would be very costly and time consuming to boost the NA drivetrain.

You need engine, transmission, drive shaft, rearend and axle shafts, matching electronics, at least ECU, TCU, SKREEM, key transponder, instrument cluster, possibly body control module. Also would need the SRT6 secondary air pump and brackets, air to water heat exchanged and pump, and some wiring harness changes. Probably couple other odds and ends.

An 04 presents another challenge, the ABS system and harness is different than the 05 models. So there is something that has to be addressed there as well.

Then you would also want to upgrade the brakes.

If the Crossfire being converted is a manual, then cost just went up more.

 

No I said the opposite. I wanted to have a car capable of running 11s without dumping a crazy amount of money into it since mods don't raise the value of the car whatsoever. It always makes way more sense to get a car that's already boosted since it's way easier and cheaper to add more ponies to it. Spending $5k + to boost a 215hp 3200lbs car whose net worth is south of $12k is beyond stupid. Just go pick up an SRT or there are plenty of other options out there.

 

Hey Mrmiata..how much do you think it would cost to turbo our smart cars if we had them ?

 

Bjames.. if you have to ask.. you can't afford it.

Hmm.. "beyond stupid".. okay. Sounds like an opinion. Well here's mine. There are cars that smoke crossfires at the track.. but spend the money for one so you can go slower than them... "beyond stupid".. you bet.

Oh and let me add a news flash for you.. not everyone buys a Crossfire to take to the drags.

 

Newsflash for you.. You're just proving my point. Not everyone buys a crossfire to take it to the track so for those who just like to cruise 215hp will suffice. Instead of getting a slow car when there is a much faster boosted trim and then saying hey I want boost to go fast.. I'm not even talking superior engine/tranny/suspension of the SRT. If you can find a better and faster stock car for $12k right now 05' or newer let me know. I'm not even putting a handmade AMG motor or IHI supercharger into the equation.

 

Well golly gee.. since you say it's good enough for me, guess I'll just cancel the turbo.

When you pay my bills, you can decide what's good enough for me.. Fair enough?

 

Fair enough . I guess I was mislead by your signature that's all.

 

There are many reasons behind why someone would put more money in a vehicle than it is worth. Buying a new car versus same car 12 months old is a great example, yet many want that new experience. Sure, an SRT6 is a better value than modifying an NA. But to some, the fact of being different may be worth more than the expense in dollars. NA Crossfires can be had cheap. Personally, I know that if my 04 had the drivetrain, brakes, and front sway bar from the SRT6, I would prefer it over the SRT6. I prefer the limited leather seats, flip up spoiler, suspension, and stock rims. I have been going back and forth between keeping my SRT6 or dropping in the SRT6 drivetrain in my 04. Only lack of time right now is preventing me from from making the swap.

If I had the time, I know I could put together a clean low boost turbo and tune it with a supplemental computer. I did it on the Hemi's when it was said it couldn't be done. Why? To me a big part is the challenge.

 

I was thinking if money wasn't an issue, I might do something like start with an SL 55 or 65 and just put a crossfire body on it (obviously, with some significant mods to the sheet metal), or, pretty much the same thing, but instead of the SL, just build it like a race car, from the ground up.

 

Totally agree with the complexity, time and money needed to supercharge a standard Crossfire. Only reason I am even idly considering it is that I want a SRT motor with a six speed. Don't want no damn automatic. Seems my choices are to add a six speed to a SRT, or put the blown motor in a standard Crossfire. I am leaning toward the latter primarily in that I have one in hand. Had a BOLO for a long while at several yards for a wrecked SRT, but these are obviously rare. Did get one hit, but they wanted 7.5K for a rolled SRT.

I think that if the boost is kept low, a standard motor should hang together if you drive it within reason - ie, no drag race starts etc. With good fuel and ignition management, this would be doable. Unknown is how to do this - looking at an MS3 in a piggy back role to just take care of the engine management and leave stock ecu to take care of whatever else it feels like doing.

My son runs an auto repair shop, so we have the tools, room etc. - biggest factor in not starting is a) money and b) fear of screwing up a perfectly good Crossfire.

It would seem another, maybe more reasonable alternative, would be to swap in one of the newer DOHC 3.5 Mercedes V6 engines. Anyone know if the block to bell housing pattern is the same as on our 3.2 V6? Those engines are rated about 300+ HP, so would have close to the same power without the complexity of adding forced induction. I know some folks have swapped in the high end AMG V8's, but I am talking about a presumably lower cost approach to getting a bit more oomph.

As had been said, all it takes is money.

 

This is probably one of the dumbest chest pounding statements I've seen on this forum. If it's so easy for you to put together a clean low boost turbo setup and tune it yourself you would've already done it. After all you're a business man who runs a Crossfire graveyard. You know this would be 20 -50k dollar profit once you finished. Please think before posting things like this,
next,

The 3.5 won't fit the housing. It's a totally different motor and came out with Mercedes new 7 speed "Damn automatic"
the 55 motor, and 55k motor are basically the same block as the 32 motor with a couple of cylinders added onto them. If you go back far enough you'll see that a 6speed has been mated to a SRT motor. Results were not very positive and that member is long gone now. If you can figure it out you could be looking a few extra dollars yourself. Good luck...

 

His other business is building custom turbo kits. Here's his website: North Coast Turbo Systems LLC