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paulnoyce Apr 4, 2013 03:42 PM

Crossfire won't start
 
Hi Guys,
I'm hoping maybe someone can give me a hand with my Crossfire. We've owned it for so long without any issues and now it's been off the road for nearly 3 months.
It went for new tyres, we took the workshop the key, came out to start it and it wouldn't start. Originally nothing happened when we turned the key. An auto electrician thought it may be the ecu as there was no power going to the starter motor. We had the ecu tested and it came back fine. All the electrical connections have been tested and resoldered if needed.
We charged up the battery and tried to restart it. Now it will turn over 3 times but will not start or turn over anymore than that.
Has anyone got any ideas?
Thanks

STEPHENJXN Apr 4, 2013 04:17 PM

Re: Crossfire won't start
 
Try searching this forum for "Mystery No Start" Its probably the Relay Control Module or Crankcase Position Switch

Mrmiata Apr 4, 2013 05:55 PM

Re: Crossfire won't start
 
Try search for skreem module.. disconnect battery and see will it let you crank a couple more times then back to nothing.

ala_xfire Apr 4, 2013 06:41 PM

Re: Crossfire won't start
 

Originally Posted by STEPHENJXN (Post 733037)
Try searching this forum for "Mystery No Start" Its probably the Relay Control Module or Crankcase Position Switch

I want to see a picture of that "Crankcase Position Switch"
What does it monitor ? Busted motor mounts ?????????

Mrmiata Apr 4, 2013 10:25 PM

Re: Crossfire won't start
 

Originally Posted by alaxfire (Post 733071)
I want to see a picture of that "Crankcase Position Switch"
What does it monitor ? Busted motor mounts ?????????

https://www.crossfireforum.org/galle...171/SEARCH.gif

You know how this works right??? :p

STEPHENJXN Apr 5, 2013 10:57 AM

Re: Crossfire won't start
 
Crossfire Problems and Repairs

This is a list of Crossfire Common Problems and their Repairs. The systoms you describe are likely the Relay Control Module or the Crankcase Position "Sensor" (NOT Switch as previously stated)

The Crankase Position Sensor can be purchased here: Crankcase Position Sensor

Mrmiata Apr 5, 2013 11:46 AM

Re: Crossfire won't start
 

Originally Posted by STEPHENJXN (Post 733158)
Crossfire Problems and Repairs

This is a list of Crossfire Common Problems and their Repairs. The systoms you describe are likely the Relay Control Module or the Crankcase Position "Sensor" (NOT Switch as previously stated)

The Crankase Position Sensor can be purchased here: Crankcase Position Sensor

Are you remotely familiar with the anti theft skreem module lockout?

Crank Positioning Sensor has Absolutely Nothing to do with a dead key at the start position.

ala_xfire Apr 5, 2013 11:50 AM

Re: Crossfire won't start
 

Originally Posted by Mrmiata (Post 733102)
https://www.crossfireforum.org/galle...171/SEARCH.gif

You know how this works right??? :p

I know how a CPS ( Crankshaft Position Sensor ) works, but I am still at a loss why there would be a sensor for the Crank Case Position ;)

Mrmiata Apr 5, 2013 11:54 AM

Re: Crossfire won't start
 

Originally Posted by alaxfire (Post 733165)
I know how a CPS ( Crankshaft Position Sensor ) works, but I am still at a loss why there would be a sensor for the Crank Case Position ;)

Your a topsider oil changer aren't you!:rolleyes:

When you pull the belly cover there is a micro switch between the frame and oil pan..that when too much torque is applied it opens the switch and ECU pulls 15 degrees of timing.. please see page 829 in the service manual... :cool:

onehundred80 Apr 5, 2013 11:59 AM

Re: Crossfire won't start
 
The 'Skreem no more" thread had this as the solution to the problem like this one,

But I disconnected the battery like 12 times, wouldn't that reset everything? Apparently not. So I disconnected the battery one last time. Unplugged the module for a few seconds, then reconnected it and the battery. Keyless entry worked, and the car started right up!
Worth a try I'd say.

Mrmiata Apr 5, 2013 12:03 PM

Re: Crossfire won't start
 
Oh.. so you think this could be a skreem module problem? What about the Crank Positioning Sensor?:p

;)

Maybe tag teaming will get the message across...:)

ala_xfire Apr 5, 2013 12:11 PM

Re: Crossfire won't start
 

Originally Posted by Mrmiata (Post 733166)
Your a topsider oil changer aren't you!:rolleyes:

When you pull the belly cover there is a micro switch between the frame and oil pan..that when too much torque is applied it opens the switch and ECU pulls 15 degrees of timing.. please see page 829 in the service manual... :cool:

Since I can't quite figure out if you are pulling my leg or not, and I searched my service manual for ANY mention of "case position" and found nothing, I'm just gonna go my merry way and ignore this thread.

( and I am NOT a topsider, I remove the pan and clean it and the lower engine stuff with every oil change )

Mrmiata Apr 5, 2013 12:13 PM

Re: Crossfire won't start
 

Originally Posted by alaxfire (Post 733173)
Since I can't quite figure out if you are pulling my leg or not, and I searched my service manual for ANY mention of "case position" and found nothing, I'm just gonna go my merry way and ignore this thread.

( and I am NOT a topsider, I remove the pan and clean it and the lower engine stuff with every oil change )

DONT BE LIKE THAT...

I gave you something to do didn't I?

LOL... I know YOU know better!

GraphiteGhost Apr 8, 2013 03:27 PM

Re: Crossfire won't start
 

Originally Posted by alaxfire (Post 733165)
I know how a CPS ( Crankshaft Position Sensor ) works, but I am still at a loss why there would be a sensor for the Crank Case Position ;)





:rolleyes: Hahahahahahhahahaaaa I wanna see one of those too! :rolleyes:

Jamerian Apr 10, 2013 01:25 PM

Re: Crossfire won't start
 
Is it a crank and no fire situation...or a nothing at all situation?

paulnoyce Apr 16, 2013 03:19 AM

Re: Crossfire won't start
 
Hi,
There is no crank at all apart from the first reconnection of the battery, it cranks for about 2 seconds and then stops. Sorry for the lack of replies, been waiting to get the ECM out and try that first.
Stephanie

paulnoyce Apr 16, 2013 07:11 AM

Re: Crossfire won't start
 
I got the RCM out and it looks like new fresh solder, so probably not the rcm. Which would you check next, the skreem or the crank position Sensor?

Mrmiata Apr 16, 2013 07:22 AM

Re: Crossfire won't start
 

Originally Posted by Mrmiata (Post 733169)
Oh.. so you think this could be a skreem module problem? What about the Crank Positioning Sensor?:p

;)

Maybe tag teaming will get the message across...:)

I don't have a clue... :rolleyes:

paulnoyce Apr 16, 2013 07:29 AM

Re: Crossfire won't start
 
Someone has suggest it might be a fault earth on the a pillar, anyone heard of this?

onehundred80 Apr 16, 2013 08:17 AM

Re: Crossfire won't start
 
Any codes been set?


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