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Old Jun 7, 2009 | 11:12 PM
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Considering HID Lights! I am looking for an elegant/classy/professional look. 6000k or 8000k has been suggested? Any expert opinions out there?
 
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Old Jun 7, 2009 | 11:53 PM
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Originally Posted by MiamiXfire
Considering HID Lights! I am looking for an elegant/classy/professional look. 6000k or 8000k has been suggested? Any expert opinions out there?
Go with 4300k or 5000k if you want that look. I recommend 4300k.

If you want to look like a ricer with super blue headlights, get 6000k and up.
 
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Old Jun 8, 2009 | 12:18 AM
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Originally Posted by nox1s
Go with 4300k or 5000k if you want that look. I recommend 4300k.

If you want to look like a ricer with super blue headlights, get 6000k and up.
Agree that 4300 to 5000 is white, like your current lights. I went with 6000k, which is only slightly blue, but looks very nice.

The definitive work on installation is:
https://www.crossfireforum.org/forum...eparation.html

Make sure you get lights that don't cause a bulb out indicator on your dash.
I used the same supplier as Maxcichon with excellent results
XENON HID Kit H1 H3 H4 H7 H11 H13 9004 9005 9006 9007:eBay Motors (item 390030252025 end time Jun-09-09 21:08:32 PDT)
 
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Old Jun 8, 2009 | 01:26 AM
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id go 6k and up anything lower itd be alot cheaper to go with silverstars. i personally like the blue hue. anyhow check out this thread i purchased mine a couple years back and love them!
https://www.crossfireforum.org/forum...8-shipped.html
 
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Old Jun 8, 2009 | 08:30 AM
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I beg to differ.

I replaced my Silverstar Ultras with HID's (5000K) and there is no comparison. The ~3700K of ANY halogen looks dim and yellow next to HID's. 4300K will deliver the closest to halogen color but will be twice, or more brighter. A very good choice.

NOT JMHO.


Originally Posted by newCrossfire
id go 6k and up anything lower itd be alot cheaper to go with silverstars. i personally like the blue hue. anyhow check out this thread i purchased mine a couple years back and love them!
https://www.crossfireforum.org/forum...8-shipped.html
 
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Old Jun 8, 2009 | 08:52 AM
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This may help. Take a look at the output as you go up in temp. I stole this info so if someone catches me it's all good. I went with 4300K which I feel is the whitest and the highest outout:

Some background first - "HID light sources also produce a blue-white light that is safer because it is closer to natural daylight. The color temperature of daylight is approximately 4200 K compared to 3200 K for halogens. The increased light output from a 35 watt XENON HID lamp is approximately 80% more light then a 55 watt halogen bulb.

Color Temperature is a measurement in Degrees Kelvin that indicates the hue of a specific type of light source. Many people believe the misconception that color temperature is a rating of the brightness of the bulb or HID kit. This belief is completely false. The reality of the matter is that the higher the color temperature, the less useable light output you will obtain. A perfect example would be a black light. This light has a color temperature of approx 12,000k and has almost no useable light or lumens output. Higher K kits such as 7000k, 7500k, etc. have been manufactured for individuals that are more concerned about the actual color output of their lights as opposed to the actual useable light output they produce."



------------------------------ Approximate
Light Source ----- K Temp --- Lumens (output)
Halogen bulb -----3200k ------ 1500-2000
Sunlight --------- 4700k
D2S bulb -------- 4300k ------- 3200
D2S bulb -------- 6000k ------- 2800
----------------- 8000k HID --- 2500
---------------- 10000k HID --- 2200
---------------- 12000k HID --- 2100


I would like to reiterate that every HID system with projectors (not reflectors) will have a color shift in appearance (visible as you approach an oncoming vehicle or as seen by illuminating your headlights on a white wall) there is that line of blue/purple (and other colors, however minimal) that is generated as the light source bends around the cutoff in your projector headlamp. Now, the whiter the light, the more definition of a blue/purple cutoff you will have. So, if you have 4300k HIDs installed, that cutoff that you and everyone will see, will have a significant amount of blue/purple and a little gold, (pink perhaps too) at the horizon... very defined and eyecatching.

As you go up the kelvin scale, the less variation in color you will see. If you are in blue territory, you will maybe see a dark blue cutoff, but nothing else. Purple HIDs get the same, all purple and no variation.
 
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Old Jun 8, 2009 | 08:58 AM
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sent u a pm. jim
 
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Old Jun 8, 2009 | 12:11 PM
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Come on now Nox, ricer, really?

My 10K HIDs with my lenses look almost identicle to the super high end OEM lexus, audi, infiniti systems, and I mean almost identicle. Since it is a nice car that should have come with HIDs, they do not look ricer or that they do not belong. I agree the 4.3 or 5K will give a little more light, but I love the look of mine and DO NOT consider them ricer at all

Originally Posted by nox1s
Go with 4300k or 5000k if you want that look. I recommend
4300k.

If you want to look like a ricer with super blue headlights, get 6000k and up.
 
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Old Jun 8, 2009 | 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by 05XF-LVR
Come on now Nox, ricer, really?

My 10K HIDs with my lenses look almost identicle to the super high end OEM lexus, audi, infiniti systems, and I mean almost identicle. Since it is a nice car that should have come with HIDs, they do not look ricer or that they do not belong. I agree the 4.3 or 5K will give a little more light, but I love the look of mine and DO NOT consider them ricer at all
its not usable light output its ricer... sorry but if 10K was a good temp wouldent everyone use it..

i am not complaining about your preferance of the color or anything. just stating that 10K will give you less usable light than a 5K
 
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Old Jun 8, 2009 | 12:51 PM
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I am well aware of the light spectrum and how things are viewed, but I think it is a little ridiculous to say 'that is ricer, period'. I did not slap a TYPE R on the back or an oversized wing, just wanted a little more color to my bulbs. you guys are probably right though, I guess I am ricer, kind of like those guys over at bentley and maserati with their bluish headlights
 
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Old Jun 8, 2009 | 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by 05XF-LVR
I am well aware of the light spectrum and how things are viewed, but I think it is a little ridiculous to say 'that is ricer, period'. I did not slap a TYPE R on the back or an oversized wing, just wanted a little more color to my bulbs. you guys are probably right though, I guess I am ricer, kind of like those guys over at bentley and maserati with their bluish headlights
Do you know WHY their headlights appear to be so blue looking at them? Because of the nature of HID's sharp cutoff. And when you look at the Maserati and Bentley's projectors setup, they are much more expensive and better then ours.

When you look at the light being projected on the ground by these high end cars with proper HID setups, the light on the ground is PURE white, like daylight. The cutoff is there to not blind drivers in front of you.

When I first bought my HID kit, I too ordered 6000k bulbs. I thought they were cool, then I realized how blue they WERE, then ordered 5000k. Still a little blue for me, and now i'm at 4300k and it's WHITE.

I guess if you want your ground blue in front of you and decrease your light visibility then go for 5000k and up. 10000k? That's absolutely ridiculous and ricer, in my opinion of course. Almost as bad as buying a HID kit and putting them in a standard halogen reflector housing, or buying "HID Bulbs" with blue tint on them.
 
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Old Jun 8, 2009 | 03:06 PM
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I can't think of one company that uses even 6k let alone 10k its so purple its totally rice..

I mean what are the benifits other than looks. And what would you call rice? A type r badge for looks?

But then again if you like it more power to you I am all for people being unique.
 
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Old Jun 8, 2009 | 04:38 PM
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I am just glad I took time out of my day to be educated

Those Audi-esque LEDs aren't ricer at all, are they???
 
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Old Jun 8, 2009 | 04:57 PM
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I have 6k HID's on my car and they work excellent and light everything up amazing. blue is not "ricer". blue is bright. I even have mine pointing up a little higher than normal. Sure my car is one of those cars you think has their highbeams on but don't and it does make people a little mad when I follow them, but they get out of my way and I can see while night driveing. You couldn't ask for anything better than 6K bulbs....... my 2 cents
 
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Old Jun 8, 2009 | 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by 05XF-LVR
I am just glad I took time out of my day to be educated

Those Audi-esque LEDs aren't ricer at all, are they???
yes they are...

Originally Posted by Beaner
I have 6k HID's on my car and they work excellent and light everything up amazing. blue is not "ricer". blue is bright. I even have mine pointing up a little higher than normal. Sure my car is one of those cars you think has their highbeams on but don't and it does make people a little mad when I follow them, but they get out of my way and I can see while night driveing. You couldn't ask for anything better than 6K bulbs....... my 2 cents
you're an idiot...cops around me would pull you over in a heart beat, for good reason too. nothing like getting blinded by the ****** with bright *** hids in halogen projectors driving around pissing people off because he thinks that its okay...
 
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Old Jun 9, 2009 | 12:56 AM
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Originally Posted by 05XF-LVR
I am just glad I took time out of my day to be educated

Those Audi-esque LEDs aren't ricer at all, are they???
Ricer? Maybe.

Did I take them off? Yes..
 
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Old Jun 9, 2009 | 01:15 AM
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this is ridiculous! i dont understand what makes this so RICER.besides my lights may have blue hue to them but theyre still a 100 times brighter then my OEM setup. you guys love to the throw out the word ricer whenever someone trys somthing different. non the less you cant drive around and not see all the hottest cars running these bluer, higher temp HIDs from Highend cars, show cars, and yes import cars.+ arent ricer mods generally a DIY creation or cost close to nothing? its not like HIDs are hanging off the shelves at your local autozone.
 
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Old Jun 9, 2009 | 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by nox1s
Ricer? Maybe.

Did I take them off? Yes..
LOL, I noticed that after the post when I checked out the thread.

I think they looked AMAZING, but can not bring myself to put them on for exactly the reason you pulled them off. Besides, my buddy just bought (has not taken delivery of) a new S5 and I am pretty sure I would catch A LOT of **** from him if I did LMAO
 
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Old Jun 9, 2009 | 08:38 AM
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Ricer or not, I got my 8000K HID low beam and fog and love them. They don't look blue at all. A lot brighter in the night (isn't that the reason why we get them in the first place?) and I love the white lights on my car. Jusy my 2 cents Love the Audi lights also, but that would be too much
 
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Originally Posted by newCrossfire
non the less you cant drive around and not see all the hottest cars running these bluer, higher temp HIDs from Highend cars, show cars, and yes import cars.
this "blue" color you see is from a proper HID projector.... not the bulb the comapnys use. they use a white light spectrum because the blue light is worthless and scatterd...

I have been studying light spectums for the last 4 years and when looking though an image Blue light is one of the worst... it gets scattered and is not useable in anyway.

yes your 8K ligths are brighter but they are annoying to others because the beam is not direct and the light is thrown all over the place thus being the annyoing ricer lights..
 
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