Does anybody have perhaps a rough idea of how many Crossfire's are left out there, out of the 77,000 some odd numbers built? I was just wondering what has been the expected attrition rate for these fine cars. There's probably no way to tell how many have met an early demise.

 

That's a good question. I just looked at the autotrader.com site and there are a lot more available for sale than 4 weeks ago. It appears that the prices have also came up about $2000 too.

 

Considering the nature of the car, fun, fast (er) and looks good I'd think they "drop" faster than usual cars

 

WOW! Good question that takes me back to that old classic 1970 "Tootsie Roll Pop" commercial--

"Mr. Owl, How many Chrysler Crossfires are left in the world?"

"Uh, one.....uh, two....uh, three....(Followed by sickening crash sound of twisted metal).....three."


.....How many Crossfires are left in the world? The world may never know."

Monty

 

When post significantly slow down here in the forum, you'll know there aren't many left.

 

If the prices are up a bit, it's going to be due to reductions in trunk money (dealer incentives), 2008 model year (no 2007's), that's it's viewed as a "summer" car, there are now fewer dealers, and Chrysler hasn't been building cars for a little while now, and that they may simply be running out of them.

 

50,232 are still registered in the U.S.

 

When you think about how many have been "totalled" by insurance companies after seemingly smaller accidents, you realize just how special the Crossfires are....I'm so afraid of my baby being taken from me after a hail storm, or a small fender bender.

 

Thanks Harbor, that's proof in the pudding that there is so much knowledge on this forum, that I can only shake my head in wonder, and realize how great a bunch this car has gathered around her, or him, however you view it. Like winston, I'm also in dread of some wipe hitting my rear and the insurance company says too bad so sad it's totalled. That would seriously PMO.

 

How in the world can you prove up that? Sorry guy, but that's a lie. There is no way to verify how many xfires are registered in the U.S. or world.

Prove me wrong.

 

Data comes from the company that purchases registration data from each state dept of motor vehicles and then sells it to various customers like OEMs, aftermarket, etc.... They've been doing it since 1922.

Counts are based on current vehicles-in-operation registrations. Same company also handles NHTSA recalls and their data has withstood legal scrutiny since it is used in litigation.

U.S. counts were provided, but global counts are also available from the same company.

Not clear why I would need to "lie" about this or what needs to be "proved wrong" since you haven't listed any facts, counts or back-up data. We all know what opinions are worth, particularly yours.

 

good answer Harbor. I work in insurance claims and have access to all sorts of data like this, although not this type specifically. if you had a reason to lie, which i never suspected you did, is that sometimes there's some smart alec responses to very valid questions. i guess it's because some find this funny to be cynical, or that they're superior in some way, and somehow this "zings" the other person.

In this case I'm sure Inferno may have been thinking that this answer may be one of them that fell into that category-not "about 50,000 registrations", but 50,232 to be exact. I believed your data because out of 77,000 then a loss of about 20K since inception seemed reasonable, and I know there are lots of data sources out there. Somebody somewhere wants to know how many whatevers are out there so they can decide if they want to provide parts or add-ons for whatever. Marketers always want the data. Thanks again for the answer

 

You are forgetting the cars sold in Europe and elsewhere, so a loss of 20,000 is not a true statement, I am not saying you are lying though.

 

Guess 180 caught it first LOL

A loss of 20K or roughly 25% of the cars over the last 5-6 years seems reasonable to you???

He said that the 50,232 are registered in the US, I am certainly hoping the other 20K are in Europe or elsewhere (I have even seen some 'down under'). I am hoping only a few thousand have been lost, maybe wishful thinking. However I believe 25% over half a decade to be ridiculous.

Just my $0.02

 

no no lvr, you are only seeing my answer from your own viewpoint. In my mind I had already added in the 25 K overseas, so my attrition was not 25% in my mind, but rather closer to 5-8%, and I just felt it reasonable that 50K are left here in the states out of however many were here to begin with. I see where you got that though. I wasn't clear about what i was thinking. That's all. You read more into my answer than I was clear about-only that Harbors data seemed reasonable to me. Does that make sense?

 

OK, "lie" was a little harsh. But in your original reply you didn't provide any backup to your number.

That data is for only the US and does not take into account the rest of the world. It's also subject to how often the information is gathered.

 

I thought I read somewhere on this forum that the total commitment by Chrysler was 78k Crossfires. So if you back out non-US sales, those still in dealer stock as "new" or used, those not registered by owners, etc...then most of the 20k delta is explainable. I have probably seen ~20 posts on this forum over the past 4 years about Crossfires being totalled. Not sure what percent of the population we represent, but if there are a couple thousand owners on the forum, which seems high, then the math works out to 20 * 25 = 500 wrecks. This number is pure speculation and probably high since most owners are very careful of their XF and many are garaged over the winter, when conditions are slippery.

BTW, when I saw the exact 50,232 number my immediate reaction was someone was being a joker. I should know that there are databases for everything, if you know where to look.

 

What company do you work in claims for? I work for an Allstate Agent. Just curious.
As it pertains to this discussion, I haven't seen a "new" Crossfire on a car lot around here in quite some time. Last summer there were a few on the street, seemed to be a lot of roadsters but this spring and early summer, only a few. Aside from the guys who frequent the Sunday Cruise In we go to its got me wondering where they all have gone? I know of two people who have had their's totalled in the past few months.

 

Pat, I work for RTW here in Minneapolis, a mono-line work comp carrier, and have been here for about 10 years, and before that i worked for Hawkeye security in Madison WI, as a rookie adjuster, and as a claims examiner for American Hardware here in Mpls, then managed the WC, short term and long term disability programs at Honeywell. Then I had a stint in HR and managed weapon program subcontracts for Honeywell and Lockheed Martin, so i've had some variety in my career. I agree with your view on not seeing that many around. Just a few here in the early spring, but I haven't seen one on the road in awhile so far this summer.

 

2008 Model Year: (Limited Coupes and Roadsters) 8X074263 to 8X076047 (Roadster) and 8X076046 (Last Coupe) both build on December 17, 2007.

Doesn't this mean that there were 76,047 total Crossfires (of all kinds) ever buildt? That would include coupes, roadsters, SRT6s, etc..

Wilma's VIN# 8X076028.....I think there were only 19 more buildt after her..