Is this car okay in snow?
I drove my car home at night in a heavy snowstorm. I spun into a curb and bend some parts. Poor judgement on my part, as I had the OEM Contis on the car with low tread. So here's the deal, I had to replace the front cast iron steering knuckle, in the rear I replaced two upper links and the lower crossmember. Nice thing is the parts were available on line, not very expensive, pretty easy to replace and I didn't bend the frame or the wheels. Alignment dials in on OEM numbers now, too. I get my alignments done at my local Mercedes dealer and they know just how to set these cars up.
My next set of tires will be the Dunlop Sp Winter Sport 3Ds on another set of wheels.
I'll use these for winter only.
I'm thinking about getting the Michelin Pilot Sport A/S Plus tires for summer, but would like to know if anyone has something good to say about them.
Melspank is correct, slow and steady driving in snow and you should have no problems. Everyone I've talked to recommends dedicated snow tires for winter.
Good luck!
My next set of tires will be the Dunlop Sp Winter Sport 3Ds on another set of wheels.
I'll use these for winter only.
I'm thinking about getting the Michelin Pilot Sport A/S Plus tires for summer, but would like to know if anyone has something good to say about them.
Melspank is correct, slow and steady driving in snow and you should have no problems. Everyone I've talked to recommends dedicated snow tires for winter.
Good luck!
Originally Posted by macjville
I agree with this but not using the same words. When I was first driving, I had a Chevy Monza 4 cylinder. It was about the same size as the XF and RWD. I drove that thing everywhere through every type of weather condition on bald tires. It is all about driving smart.
Calgary winters can get bad and I do drive in ice and snow if I must,I drive on winter dunlops and love them I've had no problems and some sandbags help like others have said,go for it.
As long as you are not bottoming out in really deep snow - I think the XF is excellent in the snow as long as you have 4 snow tires (I have Blizzaks). A quick search will find some recent discussion on XF in snow.
I had no luck driving in the snow with my xfire, but my tires were far from optimal. Once it was moving it was somewhat ok, but it was near impossible to get it to move after a storm.
Incidentally, this has NOTHING to do with being rear wheel drive... it has to do with being lightweight with a large footprint (wide tires) and no posi =(.
PS- Rear wheel drive does not = bad in snow contrary to what so many people say.... its just that amateur drivers are so scared of the rear end fishtailing they prefer the front wheel drives... When do you need traction most? going up hill or accellerating... when going uphill or accellerating where does the cars weight transfer to? Thats right.... to the rear wheels... and ppsi = traction. There is a lot more to be said (and debated) on this subject, but I had to at least give my 15 second schpiel =P
Incidentally, this has NOTHING to do with being rear wheel drive... it has to do with being lightweight with a large footprint (wide tires) and no posi =(.
PS- Rear wheel drive does not = bad in snow contrary to what so many people say.... its just that amateur drivers are so scared of the rear end fishtailing they prefer the front wheel drives... When do you need traction most? going up hill or accellerating... when going uphill or accellerating where does the cars weight transfer to? Thats right.... to the rear wheels... and ppsi = traction. There is a lot more to be said (and debated) on this subject, but I had to at least give my 15 second schpiel =P
Originally Posted by Grymm
I had no luck driving in the snow with my xfire, but my tires were far from optimal. Once it was moving it was somewhat ok, but it was near impossible to get it to move after a storm.
Incidentally, this has NOTHING to do with being rear wheel drive... it has to do with being lightweight with a large footprint (wide tires) and no posi =(.
PS- Rear wheel drive does not = bad in snow contrary to what so many people say.... its just that amateur drivers are so scared of the rear end fishtailing they prefer the front wheel drives... When do you need traction most? going up hill or accellerating... when going uphill or accellerating where does the cars weight transfer to? Thats right.... to the rear wheels... and ppsi = traction. There is a lot more to be said (and debated) on this subject, but I had to at least give my 15 second schpiel =P
Incidentally, this has NOTHING to do with being rear wheel drive... it has to do with being lightweight with a large footprint (wide tires) and no posi =(.
PS- Rear wheel drive does not = bad in snow contrary to what so many people say.... its just that amateur drivers are so scared of the rear end fishtailing they prefer the front wheel drives... When do you need traction most? going up hill or accellerating... when going uphill or accellerating where does the cars weight transfer to? Thats right.... to the rear wheels... and ppsi = traction. There is a lot more to be said (and debated) on this subject, but I had to at least give my 15 second schpiel =P
I would not want to drive a Xfire in snow unless it had narrow ice/snow tires, all seasons? forget about it.
Having recent experience with the FWD Concord and LHS and my RWD 300 all equipped with the same make and model snow/ice tires on all four corners, the FWD's win hands down in snow and ice. The FWD's would leave the scary SUV's with their all season tires behind or in the ditch.
Last edited by onehundred80; Aug 23, 2009 at 06:35 PM.
Originally Posted by mdaniels4
Good for you Carless, you won't be sorry. I disagree with Kurts about the A/S tires being useless, but really it's all a matter of preference. The straight winter tire thing is the way to go of course, the car recommends 18's all the way around, I'm thinking 17's with the winter tires would be best. But I digress. Then I'd have to get all new wheels, or go through the rigamorole of having the tires changed out every season, store them etc, and I just don't want to do that. so for me, driving on the 4 lanes on my commute in the winter, the roads are almost always clear, the A/S are the best compromise all around.
You will not regret getting, IMO, and probaly the vast amount of folks here will agree with me, the best darn car and value on the planet today. Coupe or roadster? What color and year? Ltd, base or SRT? And welcome to the group!
You will not regret getting, IMO, and probaly the vast amount of folks here will agree with me, the best darn car and value on the planet today. Coupe or roadster? What color and year? Ltd, base or SRT? And welcome to the group!
You disagree? I'm cut to the quick!
You have to remember that I live in Nowhereland, N.E. WI & the 55 mile drive to work every day is 90% rural backroads & highways with about half of that on no-shoulder 2 lanes. It's an evil ride when the snows a'flyin & the various counties I drive through will always concentrate on the more heavily used highways to plow first so that means my keister is stuck trying to wrestle the car through the tracks previously placed there by pick-ups & SUV's.
It's a load of laughs, let me tell ya!
That being said, I drive on A/S's year 'round. When it's really snowing or the roads are for sh_t out comes the Cougar. It already has dents on it from deer crashing into it & the paint's chipping & it accelerates like an old woman in a walker BUT it goes through anything! And I don't care if some jerk decides to go zipping down the road & whacks it. As long as the heater works & the thing can be steered I'm golden!
Last edited by Kurts; Aug 24, 2009 at 09:00 PM.
Originally Posted by Kurts
GASP!
You disagree? I'm cut to the quick!
You have to remember that I live in Nowhereland, N.E. WI & the 55 mile drive to work every day is 90% rural backroads & highways with about half of that on no-shoulder 2 lanes. It's an evil ride when the snows a'flyin & the various counties I drive through will always concentrate on the more heavily used highways to plow first so that means my keister is stuck trying to wrestle the car through the tracks previously placed there by pick-ups & SUV's.
It's a load of laughs, let me tell ya!
That being said, I drive on A/S's year 'round. When it's really snowing or the roads are for sh_t out comes the Cougar. It already has dents on it from deer crashing into it & the paint's chipping & it accelerates like an old woman in a walker BUT it goes through anything! And I don't care if some jerk decides to go zipping down the road & whacks it. As long as the heater works & the thing can be steered I'm golden!
You disagree? I'm cut to the quick!
You have to remember that I live in Nowhereland, N.E. WI & the 55 mile drive to work every day is 90% rural backroads & highways with about half of that on no-shoulder 2 lanes. It's an evil ride when the snows a'flyin & the various counties I drive through will always concentrate on the more heavily used highways to plow first so that means my keister is stuck trying to wrestle the car through the tracks previously placed there by pick-ups & SUV's.
It's a load of laughs, let me tell ya!
That being said, I drive on A/S's year 'round. When it's really snowing or the roads are for sh_t out comes the Cougar. It already has dents on it from deer crashing into it & the paint's chipping & it accelerates like an old woman in a walker BUT it goes through anything! And I don't care if some jerk decides to go zipping down the road & whacks it. As long as the heater works & the thing can be steered I'm golden!
Originally Posted by onehundred80
Driving on bald tires is not smart at anytime.
Originally Posted by stryfox
snow? uh, no.
A little dusting not bad.
I got stuck in 2" last winter.
A little dusting not bad.
I got stuck in 2" last winter.
Originally Posted by redeagle
But what tires were you using? Summer tires like PS2 / AS / or dedicated snows? I'll bet it wasn't snow tires. My PS2's lose grip when the temp hits 35 degrees - forget about snow. With snow tires I have travel well in 4-5" of snow (that is about as bad as it gets in NJ) no problem uphills downhills 60+mph.
Not far from you I'm just out of philly
Originally Posted by stryfox
No not dedicated snow tires. Conti all seasons
Not far from you I'm just out of philly
Not far from you I'm just out of philly
Cheers.
Do what I do. Keep the Crossfire in the garage for nice, warm, sunny days and spend a couple of grand on a beater truck or similar. I love my F-150s because they are cheap, run forever, can haul stuff, are good in snow, and I don't have to worry about scratching the paint.
Well, they weren't bald, just not new enough for winter.
I'm waiting for the new Michelin Pilot Alpin PA3s to become available in October. These tires have one side facing OUT, which means I can switch them across when the right rear needs it. Pretty good reviews on these.
I'm waiting for the new Michelin Pilot Alpin PA3s to become available in October. These tires have one side facing OUT, which means I can switch them across when the right rear needs it. Pretty good reviews on these.
Originally Posted by mdaniels4
Good for you Carless, you won't be sorry. I disagree with Kurts about the A/S tires being useless, but really it's all a matter of preference. The straight winter tire thing is the way to go of course, the car recommends 18's all the way around, I'm thinking 17's with the winter tires would be best. But I digress. Then I'd have to get all new wheels, or go through the rigamorole of having the tires changed out every season, store them etc, and I just don't want to do that. so for me, driving on the 4 lanes on my commute in the winter, the roads are almost always clear, the A/S are the best compromise all around.
You will not regret getting, IMO, and probaly the vast amount of folks here will agree with me, the best darn car and value on the planet today. Coupe or roadster? What color and year? Ltd, base or SRT? And welcome to the group!
You will not regret getting, IMO, and probaly the vast amount of folks here will agree with me, the best darn car and value on the planet today. Coupe or roadster? What color and year? Ltd, base or SRT? And welcome to the group!
It's a 2004 coupe, that light blue/silvery color. I LOVE it. I got it for a steal: less than 20,000 miles, I scored a car starter/alarm, not a single scratch, and when I went to pick it up from the previous owner he gave me a $100 bill because it was due for an oil change soon. Also, it came with a set of blizzaks on a set of 17's I think....that work wonderful. The winter is almost over, and it's made it through great. The one time I got stuck was in a neighborhood that hadn't been plowed after several bad snow falls (our state isn't too quick on snow removal). Other than that it makes it through 6 inches plus. I just make sure to keep momentum, and I followed several people's advice with the sand bags in the back. Thank you to everyone for all the good advice. I don't regret it one bit!
And by the way - I live in Alaska - so it's definitely possible.



