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Chris L. 03-18-2013 09:56 AM

Tpms battery lifespan.
 
So when one of the TPMS sensors dies.....I guess it would make some sense to just wait till you need your next set of tires & have them all replaced....

Appears the 07 built March of 07 has a dead sensor.....

ala_xfire 03-18-2013 10:07 AM

Re: Tpms battery lifespan.
 

Originally Posted by Chris L. (Post 729884)
So when one of the TPMS sensors dies.....I guess it would make some sense to just wait till you need your next set of tires & have them all replaced....

Appears the 07 built March of 07 has a dead sensor.....

Makes sense to me to just have normal valve stems installed and do the TPMS monitor disable mod.
How hard is it to check your tire pressure anyway ?
On our cars, it only informs you that 'some' wheel is low, you have to check them all anyway.
The TPMS will not ENSURE you have 33 rear / 32 front anyway like you should.

Mrmiata 03-18-2013 10:21 AM

Re: Tpms battery lifespan.
 

Originally Posted by alaxfire (Post 729887)
Makes sense to me to just have normal valve stems installed and do the TPMS monitor disable mod.
How hard is it to check your tire pressure anyway ?
On our cars, it only informs you that 'some' wheel is low, you have to check them all anyway.
The TPMS will not ENSURE you have 33 rear / 32 front anyway like you should.

So you actually walk around the car checking tire pressures every time before turning the key on..?

Personally if I picked up a nail on the road, went in somewhere to eat, I'd want to know my tire was low with an issue before I got on the road again. I figure if it saves one rim from getting ate up while trying to get slowed down.. they were with the investment.
To each there own, but that's my thought on the matter.

ala_xfire 03-18-2013 10:26 AM

Re: Tpms battery lifespan.
 

Originally Posted by Mrmiata (Post 729892)
So you actually walk around the car checking tire pressures every time before turning the key on..?

I'm anal, but not quite THAT anal. I check them weekly, and just rely on the seat of the pants to tell me something is wrong. Worked for me for 52 years of driving.
I know you still have that bolt thru the wheel thing stuck in you head.

( do you fiddle with ( and trust ) the electronic oil level readout, or simply use the dip stick like I do ? )

Mrmiata 03-18-2013 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by alaxfire (Post 729893)
I'm anal, but not quite THAT anal. I check them weekly, and just rely on the seat of the pants to tell me something is wrong. Worked for me for 52 years of driving.
I know you still have that bolt thru the wheel thing stuck in you head.

( do you fiddle with ( and trust ) the electronic oil level readout, or simply use the dip stick like I do ? )

LOL.. That bolt was a WTH moment with TPMS removing any doubt about fast turtle trying to cross the road..
I don't rely on the TPMS but I'm not going to argue if it says get out and check a tire..;)
Much like the oil level sender.. It says take a look the hood is going up..

Chris L. 03-18-2013 05:41 PM

Re: Tpms battery lifespan.
 
I took the lens cover off, took out the 2 screws (they were stars ....not phillips head screws) ......& the wiring just didn't look like the description in the linked post. Maybe it changed for the 07s?

Decided to go with the circle of electrical tape......till I need the next set of tires........


The bummer is.......if the batteries only last 5-7 years......how can you be sure when you have new sensors installed....that they haven't been sitting on a shelf for 5 years already?


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user 8202 03-19-2013 01:30 PM

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The bummer is.......if the batteries only last 5-7 years......how can you be sure when you have new sensors installed....that they haven't been sitting on a shelf for 5 years already?
My understanding is that the batteries are lithium (very very long shelf life) and the TPMS sensors activate only when the wheels start turning above a specified speed (30mph maybe?). So I would argue the life of the batteries is mileage dependent. I'm hoping so, because I have a new set of TPMS sensors sitting on a shelf for when needed.

Chris L. 03-19-2013 01:37 PM

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I think I've seen the light come on after coming out of work after the temp had dropped significantly......before the car had even moved?

Chris L. 03-19-2013 01:58 PM

Re: Tpms battery lifespan.
 
I think I've seen the light come on after coming out of work after the temp had dropped significantly......before the car had even moved?

user 8202 03-19-2013 02:16 PM

Re: Tpms battery lifespan.
 

Originally Posted by Chris L. (Post 730123)
I think I've seen the light come on after coming out of work after the temp had dropped significantly......before the car had even moved?

You just reminded me that I too recall getting in my Jeep and seeing the lamp on, before driving. So....I did some research! Their are two kinds of TPMS sensors; direct and indirect. Crossfires have direct monitoring (indirect uses the ABS sensors and measures the rotation of the wheel). From what I have read, manufacturers use different designs and no one standard exists. That said, when googling for information, you find out that different TPMS's have different "cycle" rates, sample rates and "sleep" modes. So for example when your car is stopped, the sensor will go into sleep mode and not transmit the information as frequently as say when you are driving at normal speeds. Also, different manufacturers use different "cycle" rates. The more the TPMS transmits, the more draw on the battery.... so it's difficult to find information that applies to all TPMS sensors. The same resources claim that the batteries can last anywhere from 3,4 years up to 12yrs, depending on "cycle" rates etc. The same information also reminds us that in colder temperatures, the batteries last longer (I store batteries in a fridge). If I remember, it was an auto technician that told me about the TPMS sensors switching on and off, and that having them on a shelf will not drain the battery......now I'm not sure! :confused:

Chris L. 03-19-2013 04:12 PM

I was at a Sam's Club earlier today and the auto department quoted $44.xx for the sensor & $5 for installation.....plus I suppose you would want to rebalance...so with tax it would be about 55 to 60 bucks per wheel.

arado 03-19-2013 04:18 PM

Re: Tpms battery lifespan.
 
I use color coded pressure caps on all of my vehicles. If they are green it's ok. I do a walk around every time I use one... So does my wife. It has become automatic after 40 years. tpms is junk with its short life.

Chris L. 03-19-2013 06:47 PM

Re: Tpms battery lifespan.
 
I put a set on a car once & after a couple of years the 2 metals fused together.

Mrmiata 03-19-2013 07:08 PM

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Yep... just like them fancy dice ones I put on the Tahoe.. after busting them up I had to pry the aluminum inserts off the stem.. Never again..

Now the Mercedes Logo stainless steel ones on the Xfire.. not an issue ..

lildaddym 11-21-2013 04:36 PM

Re: Tpms battery lifespan.
 
Sorry to revive an old thread, but what would be wrong with replacing the batteries (if you can split the things)?

onehundred80 11-21-2013 04:44 PM

Re: Tpms battery lifespan.
 

Originally Posted by lildaddym (Post 768087)
Sorry to revive an old thread, but what would be wrong with replacing the batteries (if you can split the things)?

Nothing that I can see as long as you put it all together correctly and it did not fly apart when driving it. Which would mean you had to dismount the tire again.
Arado took one apart and he figured it was not worth the hassle. I would be willing to do it when I get a bad one in my hands.
After all, how hard can it be?

I think ten years was the aim of the battery life.

lildaddym 11-21-2013 04:45 PM

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That's what I thought...anyone have a donor?

onehundred80 11-21-2013 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by lildaddym (Post 768091)
That's what I thought...anyone have a donor?

Arado took some pics and they were in his post.
This is what he said.

You piqued my interest so I stripped one down. It is very heavily potted with a super tough elastic polymer. The battery is a Maxell CR245HR..3 volt putting out 2.99volt at this time. Replacing it not worth the labor cost. Battery diameter 25mm. last a long time. gary

lildaddym 11-21-2013 06:47 PM

Re: Tpms battery lifespan.
 
Does kinda look like a waste of time...

+fireamx 11-21-2013 10:22 PM

Re: Tpms battery lifespan.
 

Originally Posted by ala_xfire (Post 729887)
Makes sense to me to just have normal valve stems installed and do the TPMS monitor disable mod.
How hard is it to check your tire pressure anyway ?
On our cars, it only informs you that 'some' wheel is low, you have to check them all anyway.
The TPMS will not ENSURE you have 33 rear / 32 front anyway like you should.


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This is why the TPMS is nice to have around.
If you pick up a nail or some other road debris that punctures the tire just enough to cause it to deflate gradually, this is what can happen before you realize you have a flat on an interstate.


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