LED vs HID
What are your thoughts on LED vs HID headlights? I'm getting tired of my halogen lights being so dark and want to cross over to the brighter headlights. From what I've read HID conversion kits are a bit of a pain to install. I'm looking at the following LED lights at Amazon.
https://www.amazon.com/OPT7-Headligh...eadlights&th=1 This one is also a kit and I'm not sure how difficult it is it install for a non-mechanic types like me. I'm also looking at this HID kit too. https://www.amazon.com/Kensun-Conver...headlight+bulb I would appreciate any feedback on these products, what you have tried, and just a general discussion about this topic. Thanks. |
Re: LED vs HID
Originally Posted by BlazingSaddle
(Post 879339)
What are your thoughts on LED vs HID headlights? I'm getting tired of my halogen lights being so dark and want to cross over to the brighter headlights. From what I've read HID conversion kits are a bit of a pain to install. I'm looking at the following LED lights at Amazon.
https://www.amazon.com/OPT7-Headligh...eadlights&th=1 This one is also a kit and I'm not sure how difficult it is it install for a non-mechanic types like me. I'm also looking at this HID kit too. https://www.amazon.com/Kensun-Conver...headlight+bulb I would appreciate any feedback on these products, what you have tried, and just a general discussion about this topic. Thanks. |
Re: LED vs HID
I have 4 HID and would not switch em.
Different vehicle I tried some led head lights that seemed bright, till they were on the road, sent them back same week. There is not enough light flux to match even the standard lights. Seemed good - had fans in the base and all, would not suggest them, factory usually has multiple LEDS to get the power needed. Enjoy Woody:cool: |
Re: LED vs HID
Originally Posted by waldig
(Post 879354)
I have 4 HID and would not switch em.
Different venicle I tried some led head lights that seemed bright, till they were on the road, sent them back same week. There is not enough light flux to match even the standard lights. Seemed good - had fans in the base and all, would not suggest them, factory usually has multiple LEDS to get the power needed. Enjoy Woody:cool: That was then, but I doubt things have changed much. One day, maybe. |
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Have you tried the PIAA 4000K H7 lights from Needswings?? They have a very nice white light that goes way out there far down the road. All the light I need and my eyes aren't all that good any more at age 67. To me personally HID's just seem like a whole lot of work for a very small advantage.
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Re: LED vs HID
Originally Posted by Sussudio
(Post 879343)
I've had the Kensun 6000k HIDs in for about eight months, no complaints at all. I'm not sure our cars are ideal for LED headlights as the put off so much heat from what I've read anyways. I could be wrong. Someone on here will surely chime in with better info
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Re: LED vs HID
Originally Posted by zip439
(Post 879358)
Have you tried the PIAA 4000K H7 lights from Needswings?? They have a very nice white light that goes way out there far down the road. All the light I need and my eyes aren't all that good any more at age 67. To me personally HID's just seem like a whole lot of work for a very small advantage.
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:( People need to remember that oncoming traffic gets blinded by these crazy other-than-stock headlight modifications. IF your headlights (H7) are not lighting the road enough, find out why instead of throwing out beams of blinding light to oncoming traffic. IF you do install non-OEM systems, get the damn things properly adjusted as a minimum. Someone put a lot of work into the design and fit of these H7 bulbs to meet the criteria required for safe operation INCLUDING oncoming traffic. We all see the screwed up aim AND intensity of oncoming traffic lighting systems at night, so are you part of the problem? Just saying. :(
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Re: LED vs HID
Originally Posted by GraphiteGhost
(Post 879403)
:( People need to remember that oncoming traffic gets blinded by these crazy other-than-stock headlight modifications. IF your headlights (H7) are not lighting the road enough, find out why instead of throwing out beams of blinding light to oncoming traffic. IF you do install non-OEM systems, get the damn things properly adjusted as a minimum. Someone put a lot of work into the design and fit of these H7 bulbs to meet the criteria required for safe operation INCLUDING oncoming traffic. We all see the screwed up aim AND intensity of oncoming traffic lighting systems at night, so are you part of the problem? Just saying. :(
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Re: LED vs HID
Originally Posted by BlazingSaddle
(Post 879409)
I cannot agree with you more such cars are annoying and unsafe. But no need to direct your entire frustration with them on me. Frankly what bothers me much more and impedes my driving are those with one of their headlights pointing right into my eyes and those who drive jacked up high trucks and drive right behind me... just saying :cool:
;) Blazing, didn't point the reply at you, I used the wrong word 'you' in 3 places the post so I can see why you felt that way. Everything you said is right on, we're good. Funny, when those guys jack their front ends (or overload their vehicles) the low beams are like highs, and when you 'flick' them with your highs, they turn on their high beams and it is actually a dimmer glare! I can also say (forgot to include it originally) that some people swing the opposite way when dealing with this issue, know a guy who got tired of the this whole headlight mess on the road and installed a light bar on his aftermarket front bumper AND a light bar on his roof. You can imagine what happens, one day someone will retaliate. Secretly, I hope he does it to a law enforcement agency, I would love to be a fly on the wall when that happens! ;) . |
Re: LED vs HID
Originally Posted by BlazingSaddle
(Post 879379)
I just looked at them on Amazon.com. The rating is not bad. I've placed a pair of the most expensive halogen lights on my other car and I was not impressed. So I'm not sure if any other halogen lights will be different. Have you tried these yourself? Thanks.
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Re: LED vs HID
Originally Posted by BlazingSaddle
(Post 879339)
What are your thoughts on LED vs HID headlights? I'm getting tired of my halogen lights being so dark and want to cross over to the brighter headlights. From what I've read HID conversion kits are a bit of a pain to install. I'm looking at the following LED lights at Amazon.
https://www.amazon.com/OPT7-Headligh...eadlights&th=1 This one is also a kit and I'm not sure how difficult it is it install for a non-mechanic types like me. I'm also looking at this HID kit too. https://www.amazon.com/Kensun-Conver...headlight+bulb I would appreciate any feedback on these products, what you have tried, and just a general discussion about this topic. Thanks. HIDS are fine as long as they emit the light down the centerline of the "bulb" and are the same depth in the socket at the original H7 so the parabolic reflectors are aligned proper. Also don't confuse lumens with candlepower. 10 billion lumens not focused properly won't outshine 300,000 candlepower. Candlepower=focused light, Lumens=total light emitted in any direction. |
Re: LED vs HID
Maybe these... Osram Rallye 64217 65w Ultra High Output H7
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Here is 100 W but too bad it's blue and not street legal...
https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/o7h/Lucas...ulb/B006HFMA78 |
Re: LED vs HID
Originally Posted by KDW4Him
(Post 879480)
Here is 100 W but too bad it's blue and not street legal...
https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/o7h/Lucas...ulb/B006HFMA78 The 65W bulbs are not street legal and are marked for OFF ROAD USE, or at least they were, but who is going to notice ten watts and get you to take out the bulb and check anyway. I see Candle Power Inc does not mention them being illegal but it did once. I ended up installing the Sylvania Ultras and comparing them to the regular Sylvania, I could not tell the difference against a wall. I got mixed up installing the Ultras and now I have one Ultra and one regular in the low beams. I only found out as I was packing it all away and I could not be bothered to put the other Ultra in the passenger side. |
Re: LED vs HID
;) I found many of the off-brand filament lamp wattages did not come out correctly when tested against ohms law and the voltage applied. Being they are DC, and using a simple formula ( Voltage applied squared, then divided by resistance of the bulb in ohms, will give you the power in watts ) , they were in no way the advertised wattage. I call that 'puffing', to sell them. ;)
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Re: LED vs HID
KDW4him; I have a half dozen of them in my spares box: Osram Rallye 64217 65w Ultra High Output H7.
I didn't care for them as they are the same yellow color as the OEM at about 3400K. I ran them about one month (they are suppose to have a long life) and then bought the 4000K. I can see much better down the road with the PIAA 4000K. |
Re: LED vs HID
THe resistance of tungsten changes dramatically as they approach operating temp, power has to measured by E x I. Tungsten is positive temperature coefficient, more resistance with higher temps. Woody:p
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Re: LED vs HID
Originally Posted by waldig
(Post 879504)
THe resistance of tungsten changes dramatically as they approach operating temp, power has to measured by E x I. Tungsten is positive temperature coefficient, more resistance with higher temps. Woody:p
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Re: LED vs HID
Originally Posted by zip439
(Post 879501)
KDW4him; I have a half dozen of them in my spares box: Osram Rallye 64217 65w Ultra High Output H7.
I didn't care for them as they are the same yellow color as the OEM at about 3400K. I ran them about one month (they are suppose to have a long life) and then bought the 4000K. I can see much better down the road with the PIAA 4000K. |
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