I didn't say l was getting rid of my Xfire?
The only thing I know that's like a woman is a "HURRICANE" it comes in WET and WILD and Leaves with your HOUSE AND CAR !!!

 

Well we ran the emotional gamut today. I'm glad I bought the car. The discussion was great. This is a really good forum. Glad I'm part of it.

Bob

 

All I can say is...I'm glad I have my xFire. I didn't buy it for fast...it's fast enough...I bought it cause I haven't had a ragtop since my MGB (back in the '70s), it looks great (I get a new smile every time I see the car from a different angle), and it strikes up lots of conversations!

 

I like this car. Speed is not everything lol. This car has enough to keep me happy for a while. But as I am saying this, I would not mind driving a bmw M3 as my next car. Both are good cars in their own ways. And please, enjoy your cars.

 

I have an '05 base crossfire about 3,600 mi on it. I had it in the shop for the recall fan replacement and have not had any other problems with it. The car has a top speed of 150 mph, good gas mileage and handles great. I don't think you can get a better all around car. Think of it like a stock its got a lot to offer does not sell well price goes down makes it a GREAT BUY.

 

Yeah the Crossfire is a real shame! It only tops out at 150? I like to at least do 160 when I go for a drive. And the look? Why does everyone stare at the car? Another "negative" and I was hoping there'd be lots more of them, it really sucks having such a unique car, I just don't get it.
In all honesty it took me a year to get my Crossfire. I'd take this car over any Vette, 300Z or Z28 I've owned. Truth be told its the finest car I've ever owned, a keeper.

Pat

 

Bullfrog...a self oil check system? Does the Limited Coupe have that? Sorry, but I guess I haven't noticed that about my car. I've had her only 6 months and I check the oil using the dip stick. Tell me more please.

 

Cissy,

yeah i think i worded it wrong, it's an electronic oil check system where you check the oil from inside the car without ever having to use the dipstick. I believe there is a thread on how to do it if you can't find it it's real simple.

First make sure the car is level. Second if you just ran the car, wait about 5 minutes for all the oil to return to the pan. So here it goes: Turn the key to position 2 (don't start the car) and wait for about 10 sec. while looking at your odometer. Wait till the mileage disappears and a oil pictogram with a clock at the bottom appears on the odometer display; when it appears push the mileage reset button in twice and it will take a reading. If everything is good it will display an "OK" message, if not it'll display if you are short by letting you know how many quarts you need.

 

Thank you so much, Bullfrog! Another thing I seem to learn everyday about our great XF's. Of course, if I would take the time (who has any?) to study/read the owners manual, I might have stumbled across that. Thanks for taking the time to type it out. I saved it

 

What more could you want in this car? Great looks, decent power, great handling, and you don't see them everywhere. We looked at a lot of cars before buying the Crossfire, but in the end we bought our roadster because in the 3 weeks of looking at different cars, we only saw two other Crossfires.
Our roadster is a keeper!

 

I believe I've noticed a trend with our cars.

The people that have been unhappy with their purchase have mostly been from a younger crowd.

Is that true? It seems like it.

I think a big factor in that boils down to the fact that the newer generation wants a car that can be tweaked...like silly looking ground effects, obnoxious "fart can" mufflers, turbo chargers maxed out to stratospheric boost pressures (and coupled with -also- obnoxious noisy blow-off valves), butt-ugly -and expensive- carbon fiber hoods (has anyone figured that one out?), and so on.

I use to have a 350z, and the main reason I got rid of it was because it turned into a boy racer car with an embarrassing aftermarket support. Some of the stuff is cool, but a lot of it was downright ugly. And then everyone bought one and I was driving around my 350z in a sea of 350z's (they are seemingly everywhere here in Phoenix...and so are G35's). I just didn't feel unique any longer in that car. (I believe, though, that the car gets a bad rap...it really was a pretty neat car overall, but everyone seems to have one).

I love the fact that there is virtually no aftermarket support for our cars. It may drive away some, but it is what will keep the Crossfire in a class of its own.

 

Hit a nerve there, Bullfrog? :-)

Good post.

 

I'll never sell my Crossfire, and I plan to drive it until they carry me off in the wagon. You people don't like your Crossfire, sell it, burn it, I don't care bu stop boring me with your "I'm so down over my Crossfire stories" and leave my Crossfire alone, I'm sure it don't like you either... I love this car and that is the bottom line brothers and sisters.

HOOAH!

 

Pelked1 you nailed it!

It is true and I was 19 once as well and I usually ran the crap out of my cars and yes I added headers and wider tires and I jacked it up and I drag raced at every light and yes I was always repairing them.

The Crossfire has enough power and speed, those who don't think so, what are they comparing it to? If you look at the Miata, the Sky, the Solstice, TT the RX8 or any other car as such we are faster and handle better, there is always going to be something faster and probably better, but we have the whole package, Good looks, uniqueness, economics, and it has very respectable speed and power not to mention one of the better handling cars on the road.

So if you do not like the Crossfire Sell it and get something else you will probably have issues with as well!

 

WOW... I didn't think I'd get this much response, but here we go...

First of all I love my Crossfire, it's beautiful and unique... AS I SAID BEFORE... no other car makes me feel like this one does, and I did my research into cars for over a year before I decided to purchase this one, I chose it over the G35 and 350Z for several very good reasons...

BUT all that I am saying here is that I'm frustrated for the following reasons:

- Chrysler wanting to kill / replace the car so quickly...

- Chrysler having not designed the car in the first place to have made it a long-term competitor on the market...

Read what "Juddz" wrote:

"Slightly used Corvettes, Audi TT, Porsche Boxters, and many others also creep into the same price bracket as the Crossfire. Basically, the point I am trying to make is that the Crossfire coupe is very far from being the "only game in town" for $29 - 34K (list). I too hope it is discontinued ASAP, probably when the contract expires in 2008. But I want it gone for very different reasons. I think it should be pulled off the market while it is still well regarded by the motor press and public. It's competitive now, but can you imagine selling this same car with its blocky interior styling, lack of telematics, 215 hp, and recirculating ball steering gear past 2008? After that, it will truly be an ancient car, as the basic architecture already owes more to the mid-90's than it does to 2005. I say, let it die with glory. Don't drag it out like Alfa did for several decades with its ancient Spider."

Dan, thank you for insulting my age - I appreciate it! I'm glad your assumptive and ignorant maturity has brought you to the conclusion that anyone below your age or anyone that wasn't alive while certain cars were in production doesn't seem to be aware of their existence or value... The Chrysler / Maserati joint venture that was the TC was a rare car... and wow how many of those I see in car shows and collectors garages these days! (That was sarcasm, in case you didn't catch that...) I am very well aware of what the Mustang is Dan... The Chrysler Crossfire will be a great collectable in years to come (distant years, not immediate - they hold their value about as well as a Ford Taurus)... Unfortunately the only Crossfires worth collecting will more than likely be the rarest of all, the SRT6's... And the only reason that the Crossfire will be a collectable is because of its halo car / limited production status and because of it's pedestal it sits on as the embodiment of unique Chrysler concept vehicles that they're famous for, this one having actually made it to production... Much like the underpowered Prowler... (alot of power, but not for it's class, just like the Crossfire). So I love my Crossfire and am just frustrated that it's being replaced, so I'll enjoy this car that I love so much and then upgrade when the new cars that will outclass it hit the market, that's all I'm saying...

"Firebased" wrote:
"I hope that Chrysler drops the Crossfire line in the next couple of years. And you ask why? Because my coupe will be worth every dime I paid for it, I can keep it for the next ten years and get more then I purchased it for, and what a rare car it will be. Yes what an investment, but now Chrysler has got to come through for me. I can recall the days of the Cobra, Sting Ray, and 50's Thunderbird. Look what those are worth now."

"Juddz" wrote:
"Finally, though it may someday be a classic, with 60K made to date and dealers cutting hefty deals to move the iron (which in turn sux the value out of your new car), this car has a long ways to go towards appreciating. If you bought it as an investment, I hope you are a patient person. It might take a good thirty years to break even on it. My advice? Drive it, enjoy it, and take care of it. If you want a solid investment, you wouldn't go wrong dumping the same kind of cash into mutual funds."

BUT to answer your arguments regardless when it comes to the G35 / 350Z...

"Bullfrog" wrote:
"So then the G35 coupe is supposed to be a better car? Explain to me how so?"
Now I bought the Crossfire over the Audi TT / G35 Coupe / 350Z for many good reasons, so it's not like I'm supporting the over the Crossfire, but I will refute ignorant statements by those that have more than likely never touched one...

First of all, I never said I was trading my Crossfire for a CURRENT G35, I said I would trade it for the 2007 redesigned model... Which will outclass and outperform the Crossfire by far (350 HP est. at the crank, it will smoke even the SRT-6 all-motor)... So that ends all your arguments on that aspect right now...

-Exhaust: You say it's a terrible exhaust on the Z, have you driven one and felt / listened to it? The stock exhaust on those cars is beautiful, go drive one and you'll change your opinion, unless your opinion is based off being passed by a Z with ricer tips on it (fart cans).

-Interior quality: You criticize the glovebox in the G35... have you noticed ours? Check ANY review on the Crossfire and they more than likely criticize our misaligned / ugly glove boxes... This has been a huge point of criticism on our interiors, not to mention mine has been replaced four times due to misalignment or the surface film bubbling, along with the fact that I'm on my third dashboard (that's right, the ENTIRE dash board... oh and then there was the time I was showing the car to a date and went to put it in reverse and the entire stick shift assembly lifted right out of the center console in my hand, revealing the transmission). How are your leather seats holding up? That's what I thought... I've never seen a Crossfire anywhere over 2,000 miles without VERY evident wear in the seats, even when well taken care of... Face it, every review on this car has shown the interior to be too small / outdated on the basis of its late nineties design, not to mention cheap feeling... You talk about abundant luxury features on the Crossfire... Where are the steering wheel mounted controls? Where is the separate GPS screen? (The stereo deck integrated GPS is a joke.) And damn, let's all discuss that WONDERFUL cupholder... you know, the one that won't fit anything other than the $90 Chrysler Crossfire coffee cup, never works, gets stuck in the up position, and is forcing Crossfire owners ever to just remove rather than deal with the frustration and cheap appearance... The entire interior is an outdated late nineties design with cheap written all over it... Don't even get me started on those wonderful pebble patterns on the dashboard...

-Engine: So, the G35 and 350Z have an older motor? Well this "outdated" engine that was engine of the year for ten years straight (only finally losing to the RX-8's Renesis rotary engine), and has outclassed the competition year after year in both these two cars AND the Maxima (I believe it may even be used in one of the Infiniti sedans just as the Maxima, but am unsure...). The Crossfire engine wouldn't even be in production if it weren't for Chrysler begging for recycled leftovers... face it, just like every review on our car has pointed out - the engine is just another phased out portion of the old SLK that no longer competes and has been outdone.

-Appearance: Yes, I agree the Crossfire is much better looking than the 350Z and G35... But when I first saw the Crossfire I thought it looked like a Z someone had taken an exacto knife to... To many people the Crossfire is just too edgy, cut and block-ish... To many people, curves and lines that aren't overstated but classy are better... Which has been evidenced by sales, reviews and public opinion...

 

Now... I know the Crossfire is about equal in terms of performance with the Z... The Crossfire is almost 400 lbs lighter, has more torque than it has hp (the Z has less torque than hp) and in several reviews has actually outpulled the Z in the 1/4 mile... The limited Crossfire tops out at 158 mph, the SRT6 at 160 and the Z at 160... Not to mention the Nissan and Infiniti lineup have nothing to compete with the SRT6...

But, as said above, the steering in the Crossfire hasn't been used in most any car in almost twenty years... The suspension is too touchy, stiff and inaccurate compared to other cars on the market... The day the Crossfire outdoes a track edition Z on the track I'll give you my keys (I know HDDP, yours would but I'm just talking stock here for now). Sorry, just being truthful and realistic - trust me, I wish the Crossfire could out do the Z on a track too.

Realistically, I wouldn't criticize the 350Z too badly... because I wouldn't hesitate to place a paycheck on the fact that a few of the designers of the Crossfire might have just taken a glance or two at the Z... they are essentially twin cars, in terms of performance and appearance... The Crossfire is just intended to be to the Z what the Firepower is to the Corvette, the same thing only luxury status.

Come on Bullfrog, you can't honestly tell me that the Crossfire is not outdated can you? We all love our cars - but everyone on this site will tell you you're flat out mistaken here... They are, and it has been a huge point of criticism for the reviews and has killed the sale of our cars...

By the way, one of the reasons I bought the Crossfire was because it was mainly an MB product, and it lends a certain status to the car on account of that... But don't make ignorant statements regarding the reliability of Japanese built cars. Though I would take the beauty of most European cars over most Japanese cars anytime, in a recent study European cars rated worst in quality followed closely by American cars... The Japanese led the world in terms of quality and reliability.

As for the FIREPOWER - Chrysler, as it appears now, will more than likely shoot themselves in the foot in the same way they did with the Crossfire... Available only in an automatic... and though powerful, underpowered severely for its class... This car will compete with the Corvette (its intended direct competitor) only in appearance... hopefully they will build an SRT version to accomplish that purpose in terms of performance...

NOW, to "Pelked1 who said the following:

"I believe I've noticed a trend with our cars.
The people that have been unhappy with their purchase have mostly been from a younger crowd.
Is that true? It seems like it.
I think a big factor in that boils down to the fact that the newer generation wants a car that can be tweaked...like silly looking ground effects, obnoxious "fart can" mufflers, turbo chargers maxed out to stratospheric boost pressures (and coupled with -also- obnoxious noisy blow-off valves), butt-ugly -and expensive- carbon fiber hoods (has anyone figured that one out?), and so on."

When did I say this was the reason I didn't want the Crossfire? (Hell, I never even said I DIDN'T want the Crossfire - merely that I was disappointed that it was being killed and replaced, and I'd like to upgrade because of Chrysler having decided to do that, and therefore rip us off...) There is an aftermarket on most any car - to include high end "super cars," an aftermarket is not a bad thing (Think Startech, is that too youth-ish for you? Or maybe Renntech, Brennan, and CTD-Germany are all too "ricer" for you as well...) Did I ever say I wanted to put fart cans on my Crossfire? If I wanted to I could. In terms of aftermarket, yes I would like some more performance items than there are currently, along with more trim modifications... And by the way, as for the younger owners being the ones most disappointed because of this factor... Why don't you do a search of this sight so you can see all of the older Crossfire owners discussing chips, exhausts, carbon fiber body kits, nitrous, and turbocharger kits... I do believe the majority of the people on here wanting this aftermarket are older! Not to mention their pleas to aftermarket companies to produce these products... Why don't you email CTD-Germany and tell them that they're too "youth-ish" and ricer for you because they use carbon fiber products for the Crossfire? As for blow off valves... go email Chrysler and tell them how stupid they are for producing the smoking SRT-4 with its stock blow-off valve that could blow the doors off of any non-SRT Crossfire. Tell Chrysler that they are too rice-rocket for your demands. When I first saw the Crossfire, it was on its debut commercial... It showed the car in the distance being driven by a professional looking older man in a business suit... The commercial played classical music and showed the car in black and white, zooming in on the spoiler as it deployed and the business man as he smiled... The commercial highlighted the cars high class and professionalism... This is what attracted this "YOUTH" to the car...

I do race my Crossfire by the way, and have modified it more than enough to be happy with it's power output, suspension, and braking...

By the way, even with the Crossfire being a limited production car... It's their worst selling one. Chrysler will be lucky if they don't have to auction off the last of them just to get rid of them when they stop production. I'm betting they will.

I JUST SIMPLY AM UPSET OVER CHRYSLERS DECISION TO KILL IT AND REPLACE IT... DARN! THAT'S ALL I WAS TRYING TO SAY!!!

So truthfully, let's face the facts... within one year the new, redesigned G35 Coupe with 350 estimated HP at the crank along with the new 450Z that's been highly anticipated now for some time will be hitting the market... along with the Firepower... There simply will be no ability left within the Crossfire to compete on that kind of market. The SRT6 won't even compete as is - being priced in Vette territory as an automatic (and even with its performance numbers) simply won't touch the Corvette...

I love this car - but every realistic Crossfire owner (even stated by some of them earlier in this very thread) realizes that our car just simply cannot compete and was not designed correctly for the market... had it come out in say, 01 or so... that would have probably been a better time for the Crossfire to have succeeded...

So anyway, keep complaining about things I haven't even talked about... I will enjoy this beautiful Crossfire that makes me feel unlike any other car ever has for the summer... And then I will upgrade... And you can complain about this:

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ok i believe i answered EVERYTHING you guys posted... darn you guys are tough to keep up with.

 

The Crossfire is not a Luxury car! Did you every look at a Lotus or any other expensive sports car, they have a metal pan where your feet go, no carpet. All the controls on the left side keep your right free for shifting same as XF. They all look really great and are all about handling, not the quarter mile. Just Like the XF.

The Crossfire has a lot of "Hidden Features" read the manual.

Finally, Go buy another car we don't care as you can tell. We all love our Crossfires!

 

This looks like any other sports car out there, look at the lines, it is not unique this could be a Z or a lexus or an infinity or what ever, I say buy it and keep in touch, tell us what you think after you own it and chop it.