Fixed non-operating top & spoiler with $2 switch, thanks to this forum
 

Long time lurker here and finally in early December decided to buy my own Christmas present, a 2008 Crossfire LTD, Blaze Red Crystal Pearl LTD convertible with 54k miles. Upon inspection at the dealership I noticed the spoiler light on center dash switch blinking no spoiler operation and also the top and windows did nothing after releasing the top D-ring. Having done some reading on here before shopping I knew this could be a low cost sensor/switch problem or something much more expensive. Used these problems and the fact a convertibles don't sell well in the winter in central Illinois to negotiate an acceptable deal.

Using the forum troubleshooting information, a lot of it from pizzaguy (thank you), i was able to determine my problem was likely the spoiler closed limit switch. What an easy fix I thought until I realized the OEM switch was no longer available. So I went shopping for a similar switch that might work. I found an Omron Snap switch D2S-01L13-AQ that is close and after installing it is working fine. The holes in the Omron switch are at the same CL as the pins on the factory switch and using two 3-48 - 1/2 in screws as guide pins I was able secure the switch with a little glue to the bracket.(you could put washer & nuts on screws but would need to remove the bracket). It did take a little sanding of the one end of the switch to fit in the bracket.

Some images below (Again, thanks for all the helpful information on this forum)



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ABOVE Omron D2S-01L13-AQ SNAP SUBMINIATURE SWITCH
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ABOVE Old OEM spoiler closed limit switch
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ABOVE New Omron installed for spoiler closed limit switch
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ABOVE Old OEM on Top new Omron on bottom - pins from old OEM inserted in holes of new Omron switch

Re: Fixed non-operating top & spoiler with $2 switch, thanks to this forum
 

Wow, lots of creativity and ingenuity on this forum. As most XFs pass 17 years, I am afraid some of the smaller oem bits will be unavailable. This may deserve a sticky thread of it's own dedicated to "substitute" parts.

Re: Fixed non-operating top & spoiler with $2 switch, thanks to this forum
 

bucker,
I have the same problem with spoiler and top. Where is this switch located?

MCPO

Re: Fixed non-operating top & spoiler with $2 switch, thanks to this forum
 

:) STICKY! GREAT detective work!:)


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Re: Fixed non-operating top & spoiler with $2 switch, thanks to this forum
 

Where did you purchase the switch?

Re: Fixed non-operating top & spoiler with $2 switch, thanks to this forum
 

:) SEARCH is your friend (https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Omron+Snap...1L13-AQ&ia=web)! Pick one, or three? :)


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Re: Fixed non-operating top & spoiler with $2 switch, thanks to this forum
 

Thanks

Re: Fixed non-operating top & spoiler with $2 switch, thanks to this forum
 

I just ordered the same switch $.69 plus 10.00 shipping. Hope it works for me also.Thanks,
MCPO

Re: Fixed non-operating top & spoiler with $2 switch, thanks to this forum
 

The spoiler lowering switch is located on the underside of the trunk lid being pointed at with the screwdriver in the image below.
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To determine if this switch is your problem remove the brown wire connector and use a jumper wire, as shown in photo to simulate a closed circuit across the connector. See photo with jumper wire below. With jumper wire in place the BCM now sees a closed switch signal and believes the spoiler is in the lowered position and it is ok to lower the top. Turn on your car and unlatch the roof D ring. As you do this you should see the windows go down and top should work. If the window do not move you have some other problem. This sub minature switch is subject to a lot of contact wear because it is closed all the time you are driving and the spoiler is down. I purchased the switch from JAMECO but as others have pointed out there are additional sources.
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Re: Fixed non-operating top & spoiler with $2 switch, thanks to this forum
 

Switch is located under trunk lid (black cover removed). Screwdriver in image below pointing to location
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.cro...57558ac2b2.jpg


You can use a jumper wire as shown below to make the BCM think the spoiler closed/down switch is closed (spoiler is in lowered position). With this jumper in place turn on your car and use the D ring on the top to open it. If this switch is your issue the windows will automatically lower when you twist the d-ring and pop up the top. The BCM logic will not let the top lower if it is not seeing a switch closed signal from spoiler down limit switch and the trunk closed limit switch.
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Re: Fixed non-operating top & spoiler with $2 switch, thanks to this forum
 

bucker,
Thank for the info. Spring is coming in Minnesota so I can get my crossfire out and on the streets. The car runs great only the spoiler and top are my problems.
Stayl tuned!

MCPOI

Re: Fixed non-operating top & spoiler with $2 switch, thanks to this forum
 

bucker,
I owe you a big thanks for alerting me to this information/
.I had a spoiler not working and followed you instructions. I Purchased the microswitch you recommended from JAMECO for 79 cents, installed it and my spoiler works great. Can't even begin to imagine what a chrysler dealer would have charged me.

All the best,

MCPO

Re: Fixed non-operating top & spoiler with $2 switch, thanks to this forum
 

:( That fee would have greatly depended on if they had an honest competent qualified tech AND the dealership wasn't pushing 'bottom-line, throwing parts on it' until you are either a satisfied customer OR wound up paying through the nose/trading it in as scrap. THIS is why this forum is the best I have ever been in/on for support. :(


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Re: Fixed non-operating top & spoiler with $2 switch, thanks to this forum
 

MCPO,
Thanks for the nice comment. Glad I was able to help. It's nice to have the spoiler working. If you had taken it to a Chrysler dealer with competent mechanic, who did a proper diagnosis, he would have determined it needs part "Wiring Assembly: PN 5161967-AA" and it has been discontinued. This forum is a great resource.

Re: Fixed non-operating top & spoiler with $2 switch, thanks to this forum
 

You used your head, that is something sadly lacking in this world a lot of times.