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Old Jun 5, 2007 | 03:41 PM
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Hi all, I am considering to get a SRT-6 as the price seem very attractive for about $25,000 from Cars.com and Autotrader.com but read the Turbo seem to be a problem. Is it better to get a regular Crossfire then?

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Old Jun 5, 2007 | 03:44 PM
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what turbo? yea there is a problem with the turbo... no one supplies an aftermarket turbo for the N/A crossfire if that is what you are talking about...?

and if you are talking about the supercharger that comes with the SRT/AMG crossfire than there is not much problems with it other than the IC pump failing sometimes.. and that is about all I can think off... if performance is your concern there is no reason to take the N/A over the SRT/AMG Crossfire...
 
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Old Jun 5, 2007 | 03:57 PM
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Sidez, I mean the supercharger. What do you mean N/A? Is replacing the IC pump a factory recall besides the fan (E19)?
 
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Old Jun 5, 2007 | 04:12 PM
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The problem IC pump or E19 is easily fixed by a decent dealer. I am not sure if the IC pump is a recall or not, but if you notice no zip to the SRT6 and the E19 module has been replaced then it means the IC pump is bad. I have a SRT6 and had no problems with the IC pump / E19 module. if you can afford the SRT6 go for it. Its the best deal out there.

N/A means the non-aspirated engines the base / limited.
 
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Old Jun 5, 2007 | 05:24 PM
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NA is actually Naturally-Aspirated, as in regular atmospheric pressure instead of forced induction. The intercooler pump on the SLK32/CLK32/SRT6 is notoriously faulty, but the repair is quick and cheap. I highly recommend the SRT6 over the standard Crossfire.
 
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Old Jun 5, 2007 | 07:42 PM
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Thanks all. So once the pump is replaced (if faulty), it will not happen again? I am concern because I don't want to keep going to the dealership. Past experience was I get more problems after visiting. Again Thanks all.
 
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Old Jun 5, 2007 | 10:59 PM
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The pump will work fine until it fails again.

If you are in the Chicagoland area, I can do the pump replacement easily. Takes less than 30 minutes. Most dealerships I have encountered can't even diagnose the pump as the problem.
 
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Old Jun 6, 2007 | 01:10 AM
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Originally Posted by dreamSRT
Sidez, I mean the supercharger. What do you mean N/A? Is replacing the IC pump a factory recall besides the fan (E19)?
N/A means naturally aspirated without the use of forced induction ie... supercharger, turbocharger, nitrous... when I say this I refer to the non-srt crossfire... IC pump is not under recall for our cars, but it might be for c32 and slk32... generally it is no reason not to purchase this car...

Only a few members have had the intercooler fail as few srts so far have reached above 20k miles... I am sure once more people start hitting 35k+ miles it will become a more common problem as many mercedes counterparts have it...

The dealer will quickly fix this issue under warranty provided that it happens before the warranty expires... Also the failure of the intercooler pump will not quickly make permanent damage to your engine it will just disable you from heating up the engine to much as the engine realizes that there is a lack of cooling done and will refuse to perform given tasks, unlike with the fan the engine will just heat up to ridiculous temperatures and if not treated quickly will lead to complete engine failure... I personally had the issue of the dead fan, but I was quick to repair it and did not drive it enough to do any damage to the engine...

I cannot recommend any car more than I can recommend the crossfire srt-6, but since you asked about the potential problems of the supercharger I am doing my best to answer your question... and explain to you the more common issue that are present with it... every car has its issues and the ic pump is a known faulty part in our mercedes counterparts, but again I state that in no way should it deter you from purchasing the vehicle and neither should it be the reason that steers you towards the N/A Crossfire over the SRT/AMG crossfire...

Hope this helps...
 
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Old Jun 6, 2007 | 01:15 AM
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Thanks all. So once the pump is replaced (if faulty), it will not happen again? I am concern because I don't want to keep going to the dealership. Past experience was I get more problems after visiting. Again Thanks all.
I don't want to sound negative or in anyway trying to persuade you to not purchase the crossfire, but the intercooler pump once replaced will probably have to be replaced again in time... will likely be replaced twice before you reach 100k miles... but when you think about it that is not all that often... it will more likely take you many years to reach 100k on the crossfire... as I drive mine only about 6k a year that sounds like 2 replacements in like 17 years haha thats not so bad...
 
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Old Jun 6, 2007 | 02:26 AM
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Originally Posted by dreamSRT
Hi all, I am considering to get a SRT-6 as the price seem very attractive for about $25,000 from Cars.com and Autotrader.com but read the Turbo seem to be a problem. Is it better to get a regular Crossfire then?

Thanks for any input.
It all depends on what you want from the car... If you want a cruiser, a car that looks pretty good and is comfortable for a 2 seater, then the Crossfire (non-SRT) will do you fine. Probably save you a few grand in the pocket too. Now, if you want a car that is decently quick, fun to drive, handles well, and turns peoples head even more so then the standard Crossfire, then get the SRT6.

I just recently bought one after finding it on autotrader, I got it for $24,900 with 5,600 miles on it. I picked it up 3/30/07, and now its 6/6/07 and i have 11,300 miles on it. I drive it every single day and i love it.

I run it at the track, ran 13.06 @ 108.99 mph stock... i'm going to autox soon.

Now, please do more research on the car, maybe its just a typo or a slip up, but the SRT6 does NOT have a Turbo on it.

Good Luck.
 
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Old Jun 6, 2007 | 09:27 AM
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Old Jun 6, 2007 | 12:21 PM
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Compressed air gets hot - hot air has excited molecules that occupy more space and hence is less dense. Less dense mean less oxygen in given volume, hence smaller bang in cylinder. The only function of the IC is to make the air denser after the SC.
I remember seeing a product that sprays CO2 (I think) into your intake to help cool the air. It wasn't a major upgrade like NOS or anything but it would give your car a slight performance boost like driving on a nice autumn morning.

Is this something that would help our cars since the IC pump is prone to failure. My car had only 5,000 miles when mine failed.
 
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Old Jun 6, 2007 | 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by AMGLover
Actually... the failure of the intercooler has 0 to do with engine temp or any type of cooling. Compressed air gets hot - hot air has excited molecules that occupy more space and hence is less dense. Less dense mean less oxygen in given volume, hence smaller bang in cylinder. The only function of the IC is to make the air denser after the SC. Due to the SRT-6 having additional programming in the ECU for the fuel air mixture/spark timing when the FAR (fuel air ratio) is out of range the ECU switches things off until the FAR gets back in range.

dreamSRT do some research on AMG and Mercedes-AMG to out find more about this badly misrepresented tuner car.
yea your right, nice to learn something new... but even if I knew exactly how it worked I probably would not explain it in such detail... either way what the IC pump will disable you from stable acceleration, but will not cause much engine damage...
 
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Old Jun 6, 2007 | 02:06 PM
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Correct, it does no damage to the engine. The vehicle will just be slower than a Honduh though.

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Old Jun 6, 2007 | 03:53 PM
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The guys on the Benz board say that they have rarely had a problem with the I/C. My sister is married to the General Sales MGR of a Benz dealer and he said the service dept has hardly ever had to replace one. The problem stems from, according to the Benz crowd, a cold engine placed immediately in gear and driven like a bandit.
The engine should be allowed a very short amount of time to warm up. Problem solved.
But the SRT-6, it's the best, fast, reliable, collectible car on the planet.
 
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Old Jun 6, 2007 | 10:17 PM
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Thank you all for such great inputs esp. to Rydiak and Sidez.

Rydiak - I found a SRT-6 for sale in Naperville, dealer is Bill Kay Chrysler. Have you heard of this place and are they reputable. Price seem very good at $25,000 with Nav. system. What do you think?

BTW I am in Virginia.

Again thanks ALL.
 
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Old Jun 6, 2007 | 11:27 PM
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Hi DreamSRT,

Judging from this forum, seems like 99% of supercharger problems are traced back to the IC pump. I however, in an eternal quest to be different, lost my supercharger due to a failed clutch assembly. But this looks like an extremely rare occurrence so I wouldn't worry about it.

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Old Jun 7, 2007 | 05:43 AM
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Originally Posted by dreamSRT
Thank you all for such great inputs esp. to Rydiak and Sidez.

Rydiak - I found a SRT-6 for sale in Naperville, dealer is Bill Kay Chrysler. Have you heard of this place and are they reputable. Price seem very good at 25,000 with Nav. system. What do you think?

BTW I am in Virginia.

Again thanks ALL.
Glad I could help!

I have definitely heard of Bill Kay Chrysler. I bought my SRT-6 through them. :P They have very reasonable prices and a good sales staff. Ask for Gary and tell them Ryan says hello.
 
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