Test Drove Today
I swore I would never be my Dad, but here I go spouting off just like one. At least I'm consistant because I'm on record as saying this before, so here goes.
If I would have been able to purchase a car comparable to the SRT6 when I turned 16, it would have been a 1967 427/435 HP Vette, or even a 427 Shelby Cobra. Both of those cars turned the 1/4 mile, at approximately the same times and speeds as an SRT does today, (stock and tweeked).
I was a car crazy kid by the time I was in first grade, and for as long as I could remember I couldn't wait to turn 16 and get my drivers license. So you can imagine what the consequences would have been by giving me the keys to either one of those cars. I honestly don't think I would be here today if some one had.
You can tell me times are different now, kids are more responsible, law enforcement is more deligent, cars are built safer, and there really is no way I can make such a comparison because we grew up in two different worlds. To that I say, dream on. Because as long as you consider yourself a car enthusiast, there will come many opportunities to be tempted. That will happen whether your in a SRT or a Smart car. It's inevitable, and no matter how much self control you may think you have now, boyz will be boyz and and your peers can be very convincing. To say nothing of your own pride,and ego.
Things can happen in the blink of an eye in a 12 sec. car (even one with TC) and it's a temptation a lot of guys my age can't resist so don't think you're impervious to it.
That's why I would never unleash a new driver on any public or private road in such a machine. A Limited or Base car would be a much better solution if you ask me. But since ya didn't, I'll just let this be my opinion, and let it go at that.
To answer one of your original questions about how the performance of a Limited compares to the performance of a SRT, I believe somebody said it was like the difference between a Chevette and a Vette.
Most magazine road tests put a "stock" SRT6 at 13.2 sec. vs 14.7 sec. for a "stock" 6-spd. That would make it more like comparing a 383 Road Runner, to an identically equiped Hemi Road Runner.
The SRT's are astonishing 1/4 mile performers, but on a twisty road the cornering "limits" of both cars is remarkably similar. While I'm sure the SRT feels more sure footed, and planted, the Limited and Base cars can hang right in there with them.
If I would have been able to purchase a car comparable to the SRT6 when I turned 16, it would have been a 1967 427/435 HP Vette, or even a 427 Shelby Cobra. Both of those cars turned the 1/4 mile, at approximately the same times and speeds as an SRT does today, (stock and tweeked).
I was a car crazy kid by the time I was in first grade, and for as long as I could remember I couldn't wait to turn 16 and get my drivers license. So you can imagine what the consequences would have been by giving me the keys to either one of those cars. I honestly don't think I would be here today if some one had.
You can tell me times are different now, kids are more responsible, law enforcement is more deligent, cars are built safer, and there really is no way I can make such a comparison because we grew up in two different worlds. To that I say, dream on. Because as long as you consider yourself a car enthusiast, there will come many opportunities to be tempted. That will happen whether your in a SRT or a Smart car. It's inevitable, and no matter how much self control you may think you have now, boyz will be boyz and and your peers can be very convincing. To say nothing of your own pride,and ego.
Things can happen in the blink of an eye in a 12 sec. car (even one with TC) and it's a temptation a lot of guys my age can't resist so don't think you're impervious to it.
That's why I would never unleash a new driver on any public or private road in such a machine. A Limited or Base car would be a much better solution if you ask me. But since ya didn't, I'll just let this be my opinion, and let it go at that.
To answer one of your original questions about how the performance of a Limited compares to the performance of a SRT, I believe somebody said it was like the difference between a Chevette and a Vette.
Most magazine road tests put a "stock" SRT6 at 13.2 sec. vs 14.7 sec. for a "stock" 6-spd. That would make it more like comparing a 383 Road Runner, to an identically equiped Hemi Road Runner.
The SRT's are astonishing 1/4 mile performers, but on a twisty road the cornering "limits" of both cars is remarkably similar. While I'm sure the SRT feels more sure footed, and planted, the Limited and Base cars can hang right in there with them.
Last edited by +fireamx; Feb 19, 2008 at 10:44 PM.
Smokey847, don't worry about the older folks here on the forum, you can not contradict them, remember you are young which for some implies being "stupid"???... telling them you are going to have an SRT-6 at 16 is like telling a 40 yr old virgin you are about to have sex with Jessica Alba... nobody on this forum had access to an srt-6 30-40 years ago and so because your generation is way more fortunate to have access to such a car it just makes some people a little jealous, including myself...
At 17 I was literally dreaming of having a regular Crossfire(back in 2004) not to mention an SRT-6...
Now I have one and let me tell you, it's decieving... The car doesn't feel as fast as it really is in my opinion... you will get to 100mph so quick, if you don't watch the speedometer you won't realize how fast you are going...
As a very "responsible" young man, one night I was racing an M3... before I knew it we were going 120mph on a boulevard with a 45mph speed limit and here comes the curb, sure we slamed on the brakes... abs kicks in... we both laugh at the first stop light and decide to take it slower
FYI:We were litteraly one next to eachother, I started pulling on him a little at the end, but the race was so close I would call it a draw, although I knew I was winning...
I know you will do the same thing at some point, but just don't get caught, because cops love to teach lessons to 16 yr olds, I've been there...
p.s. Sorry for the long post, but I had to say something after 3 pages of reading...
At 17 I was literally dreaming of having a regular Crossfire(back in 2004) not to mention an SRT-6...
Now I have one and let me tell you, it's decieving... The car doesn't feel as fast as it really is in my opinion... you will get to 100mph so quick, if you don't watch the speedometer you won't realize how fast you are going...
As a very "responsible" young man, one night I was racing an M3... before I knew it we were going 120mph on a boulevard with a 45mph speed limit and here comes the curb, sure we slamed on the brakes... abs kicks in... we both laugh at the first stop light and decide to take it slower
FYI:We were litteraly one next to eachother, I started pulling on him a little at the end, but the race was so close I would call it a draw, although I knew I was winning...
I know you will do the same thing at some point, but just don't get caught, because cops love to teach lessons to 16 yr olds, I've been there...
p.s. Sorry for the long post, but I had to say something after 3 pages of reading...
Most magazine road tests put a "stock" SRT6 at 13.2 sec. vs 14.7 sec. for a "stock" 6-spd. That would make it more like comparing a 383 Road Runner, to an identically equiped Hemi Road Runner.
The SRT's are astonishing 1/4 mile performers, but on a twisty road the cornering "limits" of both cars is remarkably similar. While I'm sure the SRT feels more sure footed, and planted, the Limited and Base cars can hang right in there with them.
The SRT's are astonishing 1/4 mile performers, but on a twisty road the cornering "limits" of both cars is remarkably similar. While I'm sure the SRT feels more sure footed, and planted, the Limited and Base cars can hang right in there with them.
I think you ment a 318 roadrunner not 383.
I think you ment a 318 roadrunner not 383.
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Motor Trend Magazine Dec. 1967 test results:
Road Runner, 383, 4-spd. 1/4 mile 15.0 sec. with a 3.23:1 final drive ratio.
Actually Randy, I was being generous with the Hemi, with the same spec's you would be lucky to see 13.5's with a 3.23:1 gear.
The only time I ever ran my "stock" 1969 "Hemi" Super Bee at the track, I think it ran a 13.73, but it had 4.10's, and I couldn't get any traction with the L60-15" Micky Thompsons it had on it.
Motor Trend Magazine Dec. 1967 test results:
Road Runner, 383, 4-spd. 1/4 mile 15.0 sec. with a 3.23:1 final drive ratio.
Actually Randy, I was being generous with the Hemi, with the same spec's you would be lucky to see 13.5's with a 3.23:1 gear.
The only time I ever ran my "stock" 1969 "Hemi" Super Bee at the track, I think it ran a 13.73, but it had 4.10's, and I couldn't get any traction with the L60-15" Micky Thompsons it had on it.
Last edited by +fireamx; Feb 20, 2008 at 05:36 AM.
Originally Posted by +fireamx
I think you ment a 318 roadrunner not 383.
Road Runner, 383, 4-spd. 1/4 mile 15.0 sec. with a 3.23:1 final drive ratio.
Actually Randy, I was being generous with the Hemi, with the same spec's you would be lucky to see 13.5's with a 3.23:1 gear.[/quote]
I was looking at the comparison 383 to a hemi 426 and was thinking the difference with the 318 was a better comparison, but you are right when crunching the numbers. It just goes to show how strong the std XF is with 215 hp. I had a 70 Challrnger RT roadster (from 1993-2000) with the 383 magnum. It was a scarry car at 90-100 mph. You just didn't want to make a turn or hit a pebble. The car had polyglass tires on 14 inch rims. Maybe it would have done 15.3. Maybe!
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There are enough "I told you so's" out there already trying to put nails in the coffin of anything that doesn't do more than 35 MPG. In a few years cars like the Xfire SRT will be history. So Smokey, get your mits on one and make it your ambition to tell your grandchildren that you were the last of the few.
They say the trouble with youth is that it is wasted on the young; well that doesn't apply to petrolheads
Enjoy mate; I wish I had had the opportunity when I was 16
There are enough "I told you so's" out there already trying to put nails in the coffin of anything that doesn't do more than 35 MPG. In a few years cars like the Xfire SRT will be history. So Smokey, get your mits on one and make it your ambition to tell your grandchildren that you were the last of the few.
They say the trouble with youth is that it is wasted on the young; well that doesn't apply to petrolheads
Enjoy mate; I wish I had had the opportunity when I was 16
I agree with Andy G... Get one (SRT6) quick before the prices go back up!
They were kinda rare last year, now even more so. They will never be produced again...
If you can get to track events, those are the most fun... were you can 'go fast, be safe and have fun' legally.
Get one... the rest is below...
They were kinda rare last year, now even more so. They will never be produced again...
If you can get to track events, those are the most fun... were you can 'go fast, be safe and have fun' legally.
Get one... the rest is below...
Hey.
Thanks for all of the replies and encouraging comments. You are making it very tempting to get my mind completely set on an SRT-6. When I drove the Ltd. here in town, my dad liked it OK. He did say that it was small and there wouldn't much protection if there was some sort of collision. Then, we drove the G35. He seemed to like it better, as I did (over the Ltd., of course). I have been set on an SRT ever since I was about 12. Now, almost 4 years later, the time has finally come that I actually get something. I have always liked the looks of the G35, but my attention has been drawn back to the Crossfire. So, until I drive an SRT-6, I am...oh, what's the word? CONFUSED! Ha ha. Thanks again and rest assured that I will be extremely cautious with either car. Please continue to keep me posted if something pops up in my area!
Thanks for all of the replies and encouraging comments. You are making it very tempting to get my mind completely set on an SRT-6. When I drove the Ltd. here in town, my dad liked it OK. He did say that it was small and there wouldn't much protection if there was some sort of collision. Then, we drove the G35. He seemed to like it better, as I did (over the Ltd., of course). I have been set on an SRT ever since I was about 12. Now, almost 4 years later, the time has finally come that I actually get something. I have always liked the looks of the G35, but my attention has been drawn back to the Crossfire. So, until I drive an SRT-6, I am...oh, what's the word? CONFUSED! Ha ha. Thanks again and rest assured that I will be extremely cautious with either car. Please continue to keep me posted if something pops up in my area!
Well, the time has finally come that I drive an SRT-6 here located in Smyrna, TN:
http://www.cars.com/go/search/detail...eadExists=true
Even though it's a roadster, I will still get an idea of what the car is like compared to the G35. I'm pretty excited! Thanks again for the feedback.
http://www.cars.com/go/search/detail...eadExists=true
Even though it's a roadster, I will still get an idea of what the car is like compared to the G35. I'm pretty excited! Thanks again for the feedback.
With that many miles...just make sure it isn't havign IC pump issues. If you feel like it is underpowered, it probably has issues.
My car from a 65mph punch will get you to 90mph in a matter of a few seconds. If the I/C pump is bad, it will take forever.
BTW, that is a good price for a roadster!
Also, remember that the Roadster will be a lot louder on the road...my coupe is much quieter than my co-workers roadster. I think the roadster may also have a few extra chassis stiffening aids that may make the ride a little more harsh.
SQ
My car from a 65mph punch will get you to 90mph in a matter of a few seconds. If the I/C pump is bad, it will take forever.
BTW, that is a good price for a roadster!
Also, remember that the Roadster will be a lot louder on the road...my coupe is much quieter than my co-workers roadster. I think the roadster may also have a few extra chassis stiffening aids that may make the ride a little more harsh.
SQ
Originally Posted by ShawnQ
With that many miles...just make sure it isn't havign IC pump issues. If you feel like it is underpowered, it probably has issues.
My car from a 65mph punch will get you to 90mph in a matter of a few seconds. If the I/C pump is bad, it will take forever.
BTW, that is a good price for a roadster!
Also, remember that the Roadster will be a lot louder on the road...my coupe is much quieter than my co-workers roadster. I think the roadster may also have a few extra chassis stiffening aids that may make the ride a little more harsh.
SQ
My car from a 65mph punch will get you to 90mph in a matter of a few seconds. If the I/C pump is bad, it will take forever.
BTW, that is a good price for a roadster!
Also, remember that the Roadster will be a lot louder on the road...my coupe is much quieter than my co-workers roadster. I think the roadster may also have a few extra chassis stiffening aids that may make the ride a little more harsh.
SQ
Originally Posted by RMADERMAN
,
PICK UP TRUCKS ARE COMMON EVERYWHERE
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GET YOUR MIND OUT OF THE GUTTER .
WHAT DOES THAT MEAN BONE STOCK AND THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT FOR THE MONEY
KIND OF SARCASTIC don't you think. Maybe he doesn't want a truck. And am sure he doesn't want a 92 Plymouth. He has been doing his research looking for some helpful advice. Thinking and looking for information to make a competent decision, unlike many others that purchase a car. His age should not be a major factor. If he or his family can afford the best, so be it! I am impressed that he would go to a source like the crossfire forum. I didn't even know this forum existed for 6 months after I purchased my Crossfire.
PICK UP TRUCKS ARE COMMON EVERYWHERE
.
GET YOUR MIND OUT OF THE GUTTER .
WHAT DOES THAT MEAN BONE STOCK AND THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT FOR THE MONEY
KIND OF SARCASTIC don't you think. Maybe he doesn't want a truck. And am sure he doesn't want a 92 Plymouth. He has been doing his research looking for some helpful advice. Thinking and looking for information to make a competent decision, unlike many others that purchase a car. His age should not be a major factor. If he or his family can afford the best, so be it! I am impressed that he would go to a source like the crossfire forum. I didn't even know this forum existed for 6 months after I purchased my Crossfire.
Last edited by irwin; Mar 3, 2008 at 05:42 PM.
Originally Posted by cgocifer
Are we talking pedal to the floo kind of punch, "manual" downshift, or..?
SQ
Originally Posted by ShawnQ
Whatever it takes to get the car to 'kick down' to the lowest gear. Manual downshift AND just smashing the go pedal will do the same thing.
SQ
SQ
I've had some issues with the car accelerating on the freeway. It didn't want to change gears on it's own when the pedal was mashed. I usually have to manually do it. I think this problem was corrected by the reset procedure, but like I said, it was a long time ago when the streets were actually dry and not covered in snow!
I'll have to try it again once this crap melts around June or so.
Originally Posted by cgocifer
It's been so long since I was able to drive the darn thing, I've forgotten what it's like!
I've had some issues with the car accelerating on the freeway. It didn't want to change gears on it's own when the pedal was mashed. I usually have to manually do it. I think this problem was corrected by the reset procedure, but like I said, it was a long time ago when the streets were actually dry and not covered in snow!
I'll have to try it again once this crap melts around June or so.
I've had some issues with the car accelerating on the freeway. It didn't want to change gears on it's own when the pedal was mashed. I usually have to manually do it. I think this problem was corrected by the reset procedure, but like I said, it was a long time ago when the streets were actually dry and not covered in snow!
I'll have to try it again once this crap melts around June or so.
SQ
Originally Posted by smokey847
Hey.
Thanks for all of the replies and encouraging comments. You are making it very tempting to get my mind completely set on an SRT-6. When I drove the Ltd. here in town, my dad liked it OK. He did say that it was small and there wouldn't much protection if there was some sort of collision. Then, we drove the G35. He seemed to like it better, as I did (over the Ltd., of course). I have been set on an SRT ever since I was about 12. Now, almost 4 years later, the time has finally come that I actually get something. I have always liked the looks of the G35, but my attention has been drawn back to the Crossfire. So, until I drive an SRT-6, I am...oh, what's the word? CONFUSED! Ha ha. Thanks again and rest assured that I will be extremely cautious with either car. Please continue to keep me posted if something pops up in my area!
Thanks for all of the replies and encouraging comments. You are making it very tempting to get my mind completely set on an SRT-6. When I drove the Ltd. here in town, my dad liked it OK. He did say that it was small and there wouldn't much protection if there was some sort of collision. Then, we drove the G35. He seemed to like it better, as I did (over the Ltd., of course). I have been set on an SRT ever since I was about 12. Now, almost 4 years later, the time has finally come that I actually get something. I have always liked the looks of the G35, but my attention has been drawn back to the Crossfire. So, until I drive an SRT-6, I am...oh, what's the word? CONFUSED! Ha ha. Thanks again and rest assured that I will be extremely cautious with either car. Please continue to keep me posted if something pops up in my area!
one more note, it doesnt matter which one you decide on the car you get will end up being the backdrop or the enabler for some of the best times of your life!
one more side note... the g35 and 350 are alot cheaper to maintain... alot!
Originally Posted by irwin
one more note, it doesnt matter which one you decide on the car you get will end up being the backdrop or the enabler for some of the best times of your life!
If you decide on a G35, watch out for the 2005 and 2006 G35 6MTs with the 298hp engines. They are oil burners. Engines are being replaced under warranty, but Nissan/Infiniti is still working on a permanent fix for the problem. I got rid of my 10k mile G that I special ordered from Japan for this reason. Nice car, but not as reliable as I thought.
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Well, after the fourty-five minute drive to Smyrna, my mom and I arrived at the car lot and were told that the car was in Florida!!! What? I just called about it last night! So, they had a 2004 Infiniti, and my mom hasn't been in one, so we just drove that instead. It kind of surprised me because the salesman just handed ME the keys and said, "Have fun!" Again, I really liked the way this car drives, but was disappointed because I really need to try the Crossfire. The SRT is coming in on Friday, but i'm not sure if the parents will be up to taking me back becasue my weekend is cram-packed. Hopefully I will be able to talk them into it. I just can't seem to get my hands on that leather-wrapped steering wheel of the SRT-6. This crap always happens to me.


