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Pulley Belt broke w/ 181

Old Aug 19, 2008 | 03:12 PM
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Default Pulley Belt broke w/ 181

I was driving back from Orlando this morning and had gotten off I 75 to get gas. This was South of Ft. Myers, shortly after tropical storm Fay went through. As I was getting back on the expressway, I started to slide and the traction control kicked on and off. Shortly after that the battery light came on and I had no power steeing. Then the temp went all the way up. I got off at exit 16 and went to an open gas station. ( the gas stations were closed at the previous exit)

I called Chrysler road assistance to tow the SRT to a Naples chrysler dealer. I asked them to call the dealer to make sure they were open. Not.... they were closed so I asked if they would tow the XF to Miami...... Yes, but after 17 miles the cost would be mine to pay.....$5.00 per mile. I called AAA since I have AAA plus, they said the 1st 100 miles was free then $5 per mile. In 45 minutes AAA arrived and towed me back to Tamiami Chrysler in Miami. My cost was $50

Hopefully, no other damage was done by the overheating. The XF seemed to run fine after he took it off the flatbed and I drove it over to the side to leave.

Now the question will the 181 pulley void my warranty? Should I pick the XF up and put on the original pulley.
 

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Old Aug 19, 2008 | 03:22 PM
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Why are you taking the car to the dealer? If the belt broke wouldn't it easier to buy a new one and put it on yourself? If you want the tranquility of having the dealer check it just to be sure nothing bad happened, I would return the car to stock first. You must realize that Mobil 1 can really take the heat so as long as you didn't drive an extended period with water hissing all over the place I think you are in the clear.

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Old Aug 19, 2008 | 03:56 PM
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Why are you taking the car to the dealer? If the belt broke wouldn't it easier to buy a new one and put it on yourself? If you want the tranquility of having the dealer check it just to be sure nothing bad happened, I would return the car to stock first. You must realize that Mobil 1 can really take the heat so as long as you didn't drive an extended period with water hissing all over the place I think you are in the clear.

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No water was visable, but it was hissing and boiling when I shut the XF down. I have a pretty good relationship with the Dealer. Two SRT's and bought a new TC mini van a couple of months ago. I am hopping that they just put on the belt and don't notice the pulley difference and if there is a problem when I pick it up that I will then have the pulley changed back, wait a few days and take it back.

That's what I am hopping. I really don't think the mechanics would notice a difference. I could be wrong. I don't believe they work on many SRT's other then mine and Ashley's.
 
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Old Aug 19, 2008 | 04:27 PM
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I have the 181 pulley also and I find that the belt is VERY snug. The tensioner is almost at it max position and you can only move it a little when taking the belt off. The belt just fits back on. I wonder it we would do better to install the Gator back belt that is about .5 inches longer and let the tensioner relax a little bit more. Any thoughts for the peanut gallery?

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Old Aug 19, 2008 | 04:27 PM
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Default Re: Pulley Belt broke w/ 181

Unless it has distinctive markings (the pulley) I wouldn't think they would notice the size difference. (disclaimer, I've never seen a 181 pulley so I don't know what they look like) If you ask them to just put a new belt on and check the coolant, they won't have reason to notice the pulley.

My dealer would void my warranty. There are other dealers that would not. It sounds like you may be in the would not camp, but....

Les
 
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Old Aug 19, 2008 | 06:00 PM
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Randy if there is anything i can do to help ,,call me ,,maybe if you buy a belt we can put it on and then see if anything is hurt,,if no we are done if yes we could change the pully at Nemo's (rage-tec) the srt 4 grue, let me know.
 
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Old Aug 19, 2008 | 06:23 PM
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MikeR- I have the Gatorback belt and I carry the stock as a spare.
I got the stock size belt from Summit Racing for about $50.
Watch out many sites list the incorrect belt for the SRT - they list the NA belt.
Part # GTR-4081145

Change it yourself if possible!
 

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Old Aug 19, 2008 | 06:43 PM
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^^ good advice.

Sorry to hear about that. You did the right thing by pressing on with that storm bearing down your neck. Pleased you’re okay. I once ruined a tire that equalized on the freeway by limping off to the nearest exit. No way was that $200 Michelin about to be changed on the shoulder at midnight Saturday.

It’s entirely possible that the engine’s warranty may have been voided by overheating it, regardless of its aftermarket pulley. However, having that pulley will only give Chrysler even more ammunition to play hardball. They are built hell bent for strong, but 265+ Fahrenheit coolant temperature is deleterious to virtually any engine. Even if the CEL is not illuminated on subsequent starts, that condition will have been stored as a DTC in the ECU.

I’d respectfully suggest you enlist the services of a competent independent technician to replace the belt if you’re not comfortable doing it yourself. It’s a fifteen minute task. Its MB part number is 112 997 00 92. Gatorback number is 4081145. Our OE eight rib SRT-6/C32 belt is 2908mm/114.48in. The Gatorback equivalent is ~114.5 inches.

Best wishes.

 
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Old Aug 19, 2008 | 08:30 PM
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Default Re: Pulley Belt broke w/ 181

just wondered with all this 'warranty-talk,' have any of you heard of the magnuson-moss warranty act? according to the terms, bolt-on parts CANNOT void your warranty.
 
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Old Aug 19, 2008 | 08:32 PM
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Th ebelt literally takes 5 minutes to install. I WOULD NOT have the dealer do it. A rubber belt is probably going to be a wear item that isn't covered under warranty. Buy one, and put it on yourself, or have some one that knows a little bit put it on. Don't open up a can of worms with the dealer.
 
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Old Aug 19, 2008 | 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by j-fire
...have any of you heard of the magnuson-moss warranty act? according to the terms, bolt-on parts CANNOT void your warranty.
Yes.

You are welcome to preach the SEMA line if you insist, but you’re incorrect according to those who enforce, and therefore reimburse, for repairs under the various automobile manufacturers’ warranties.

With all due respect, modifications, or as in the OP’s case, abuse (e.g., continuing to operate the vehicle while ignoring the warning indicator lamps) have indeed resulted in myriad voided warranties – even to highly competent attorneys: http://forums.mbworld.org/forums/sho...d.php?t=230979

Trust you’ll concede that, regardless of its cause, continuing to operate one’s engine while it’s overheating is sufficient to deny warranty coverage in any instance. It is, in fact, spelled out in your warranty booklet. That said, hopefully RMADERMAN will have no further trouble upon replacing his belt.
 
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Old Aug 20, 2008 | 02:59 AM
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Default Re: Pulley Belt broke w/ 181

Try this take the car in and let them find the belt, then they will list it on their data bank and everyone will be under more attention for mods.

Dont think they will notice alterations, really. I suppose that they dont have knowledge of this site either. Its a Belt change it yourself, but understand why it died.

When my 181 pulley was thrown off I did the repairs myself and went to a code 3 pulley solving the belt issues.

they are too as smart as us, Woody
 
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Old Aug 20, 2008 | 05:59 AM
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SOUNDS like an advertisment for code 3 to me!?
 
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Old Aug 20, 2008 | 08:03 AM
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Default Re: Pulley Belt broke w/ 181

Dealer just called. They can't get the belt on. Too tight. They said they will have to relace the waterpump. It has some guages on it. Should be interesting. SRT will not be ready till probably Monday. Friday if I am lucky. All is covered by warranty.
 
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Old Aug 20, 2008 | 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by RMADERMAN
Dealer just called. They can't get the belt on. Too tight. They said they will have to relace the waterpump. It has some guages on it. Should be interesting. SRT will not be ready till probably Monday. Friday if I am lucky. All is covered by warranty.
Don’t let them throw away your waterpump pulley, remember its not OEM.
 
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Old Aug 20, 2008 | 08:10 AM
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Default Re: Pulley Belt broke w/ 181

Sounds like the belt did not slip off more like somthing got thrown in to the belts path. (or the mechanic tried prying the belt on)
Hope you got the pulley off first - a factory waterpump pulley wont even fit with the 181 on.
 
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Old Aug 20, 2008 | 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Montana Crossfire
SOUNDS like an advertisment for code 3 to me!?
Why, because he said he made the switch to keep from any further belt issues?

I could say the same about your fondness of the 185mm pulley. "It sounds like an advertisement for the 185mm pulley to me!?"

Give me a break, waldig had a problem with his crank pulley so he switched to the code3 and has posted to state his honest opinion. In no way shape or form is he trying to advertise for the company by doing that.

Why do you have such a hatred for another aftermarket option for our cars? Why in the world would anyone bash a new company showing interest in a car with a very small production run and a very limited customer base? I for one am thankful for any company that offers products for the srt6. Why chase them away and limit our choices?

Back on topic, hopefully a gatorback belt (slightly larger) will resolve the issue. If the belt tensioner fails it will rip that belt to shreds and if the belt that was on the car was so tight that could be a problem.
 

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Old Aug 20, 2008 | 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by 70GT6
MikeR- I have the Gatorback belt and I carry the stock as a spare.
I got the stock size belt from Summit Racing for about $50.
Watch out many sites list the incorrect belt for the SRT - they list the NA belt.
Part # GTR-4081145

Change it yourself if possible!
Is this the # for the SRT or the NA?
 
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Old Aug 20, 2008 | 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by RMADERMAN
Is this the # for the SRT or the NA?
SRT.....
 
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Old Aug 20, 2008 | 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by 70GT6
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Thank you for the info.

I just got back from the dealer. They ordered a new water pump. The Certified Crossfire mechanic did not like the way it felt. Whatever that means. All under warranty. Then he showed me the waterpump pulley. It had disintegrated. Where the bolts attached to the water pump the holes were non existant. Just a bigger opening. And where the belt turns it was cracked. Had to be some serious torque going on when the belt went.

I called Eric at LET and he is sending a replacement overnight. That is what I call service. I am impressed.

Keep up the good work Jerry and Eric.
 
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