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Old Dec 11, 2008 | 12:09 PM
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Hi Guys,

what do you think of the problems with the new Code3-IC??
I have not got mine yet, but already paid and I'm really frustrated now...

Fittings welded "off", Air to Air -Core ?, no O-Ring flange... How will this work and reduce IATs ??? No comments anymore from Code3 ???

Please check the thread on MB-World (last Page)

http://www.mbworld.org/forums/c32-am...group-buy.html
 
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Old Dec 11, 2008 | 12:34 PM
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I didnt want to bring anything over here until I knew the direction this was going to take.
However as you can see in that thread.. It may have to go that way.
 
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Old Dec 11, 2008 | 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by ACRucrazy
I didnt want to bring anything over here until I knew the direction this was going to take.
However as you can see in that thread.. It may have to go that way.
after going over and reading the thread i really hope you guys can get this stuff worked out
 
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Old Dec 11, 2008 | 01:47 PM
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I have been following that thread for a long time and originally thought, that's great...a nice after market replacement that is bigger and should be cooler. After seeing all the delays and now the end product, it is very disappointing. Fortunately, I dont have any money tied up waiting for the part. Sorry to see this for those that do.

ACRucrazy...are you sure that the cores are air to air and not air to liquid? Just asking.


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Old Dec 11, 2008 | 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by MikeR
I have been following that thread for a long time and originally thought, that's great...a nice after market replacement that is bigger and should be cooler. After seeing all the delays and now the end product, it is very disappointing. Fortunately, I dont have any money tied up waiting for the part. Sorry to see this for those that do.

ACRucrazy...are you sure that the cores are air to air and not air to liquid? Just asking.


MikeR
Yep. I am sure. The turbonetics sticker is still on mine
 
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Old Dec 11, 2008 | 02:11 PM
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ACRucrazy...are you sure that the cores are air to air and not air to liquid? Just asking.


MikeR
Mike, I am asking this too??? To outperform the Garrett-Stock IC you have to use EVERY LITTLE DETAIL. Garrett also knows how to build an IC!! But choosing the wrong core sounds like a fault from a Newbie... I cant belive this...I am very disappointed.
 
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Old Dec 11, 2008 | 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by SLK32Germany
Mike, I am asking this too??? To outperform the Garrett-Stock IC you have to use EVERY LITTLE DETAIL. Garrett also knows how to build an IC!! But choosing the wrong core sounds like a fault from a Newbie... I cant belive this...I am very disappointed.
Lets just hold our breath he is going to have to respond sooner or later. Let's just hope Brandon didnt spend all the money coming in on the group buy cutting production cost and making his resevoir set up. That would be a really bad day. Hope you guys get a refund or the problem fixed.
 

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Old Dec 11, 2008 | 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by jonnyangel04
Lets just hold our breath he is going to half to respond sooner or later. Let's just hope Brandon didnt spend all the money coming in on the group buy cutting production cost and making his resevoir set up. That would be a really bad day. Hope you guys get a refund or the problem fixed.
we can only hope, its just expecially annoying for those of us who paid in october with the promise of a oct31st ship date, and have had the car undrivable since as the stock is blown.

All of us have emailed/pm'd many, many times with no reply.

sad times....
 
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Old Dec 11, 2008 | 05:05 PM
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Wow this sucks for everyone that ordered!!


Did something happen to their shop or something?
 
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Old Dec 11, 2008 | 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by rodimus
Wow this sucks for everyone that ordered!!


Did something happen to their shop or something?
hope not, but looking at the user records on the mb forum shows that they have been logging in....just not posting....

 
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Old Dec 11, 2008 | 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by loungn14
hope not, but looking at the user records on the mb forum shows that they have been logging in....just not posting....

OUCH I was wondering if anyone besides me checked that... I am not someone who bought this product so really I am staying out of this. As someone who supplies products to customers I know how hard it is to set deadlines when you are relying on other people. Lets just say brandon built the first one himself and outsourced the work to someone else for the buy. No harm no fowl there, but you just added another variable into the mix. You hope the guy copies the design exactly and hope he isnt cutting corners to meet a deadline he thought he could meet. Believe it or not no one cares that your painter is blowing your projects off because he has work that is making him more money for less detail, no one cares that products on back order and no one cares that the design is close to the picture they want it exact and they want it when you said they would get it. It looks bad on your part and you can only say they will ship in a few days so many times before fuse runs out.

So Part of me knows Brandon will do the right thing as a business owner the other part of me as a business owner feels his pain on how hard it is to deliever and sometimes it is better to build the products before you sell them. That is easier said then done when you have such a small market of car owners. Case in point I hope all the money didnt go to financing these and the resiviors.

End of my 2 cents I feel both sides pain best thing to do is just give it a little more time
 

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Old Dec 11, 2008 | 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by jonnyangel04
OUCH I was wondering if anyone besides me checked that... I am not someone who bought this product so really I am staying out of this. As someone who supplies products to customers I know how hard it is to set deadlines when you are relying on other people. Lets just say brandon built the first one himself and outsourced the work to someone else for the buy. No harm no fowl there, but you just added another variable into the mix. You hope the guy copies the design exactly and hope he isnt cutting corners to meet a deadline he thought he could meet. Believe it or not no one cares that your painter is blowing your projects off because he has work that is making him more money for less detail, no one cares that products on back order and no one cares that the design is close to the picture they want it exact and they want it when you said they would get it. It looks bad on your part and you can only say they will ship in a few days so many times before fuse runs out.

So Part of me knows Brandon will do the right thing as a business owner the other part of me as a business owner feels his pain on how hard it is to deliever and sometimes it is better to build the products before you sell them. That is easier said then done when you have such a small market of car owners. Case in point I hope all the money didnt go to financing these and the resiviors.

End of my 2 cents I feel both sides pain best thing to do is just give it a little more time
while I do agree with you, as a buisness owner myself, ignoring clients numerous emails and not supplying a status for months is not a way to run a business. (especially when you have already been paid)

From someone who purchased the item, all I would need is a status. A quick post like hey guys here is whats going on, sorry for the delay would be all it would take.....

 
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Old Dec 11, 2008 | 06:25 PM
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Wow, this situation sux for all involved. Hope everything gets sorted soon.
 
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Old Dec 11, 2008 | 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by loungn14
while I do agree with you, as a buisness owner myself, ignoring clients numerous emails and not supplying a status for months is not a way to run a business. (especially when you have already been paid)

From someone who purchased the item, all I would need is a status. A quick post like hey guys here is whats going on, sorry for the delay would be all it would take.....

agree 100% forgot that whole aspect. Obviously he has seen the threads they are just deliberating on how to respond ??? lol Im not team C3 just trying to give the guy the benefit of the doubt lol
 
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Old Dec 12, 2008 | 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by jonnyangel04
agree 100% forgot that whole aspect. Obviously he has seen the threads they are just deliberating on how to respond ??? lol Im not team C3 just trying to give the guy the benefit of the doubt lol
I have too....its just rough when your weeks without an update
 
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Old Dec 12, 2008 | 09:36 AM
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Ive been following that thread closely out of curiousity. Frickin stinks.
 
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Old Dec 12, 2008 | 09:44 AM
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What a mess!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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Old Dec 12, 2008 | 04:13 PM
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I requested a refund today for product not received. If I don't hear anything by monday I am going to fill out a dispute claim with my credit card.
 
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Old Dec 12, 2008 | 04:26 PM
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Some Water to Air Intercoolers that you can buy online do not contain true water to air cores. (like this code 3 intercooler)

A true water to air core has water passages that are much smaller than the air passages. This is part of what allows the water to air intercooler to be so small and have such low pressure drop. Some water to air intercoolers that you buy online use an air to air core design where the air passages for ambient air and intake air are the same size, with an enormous loss of efficiency.

Now I have no idea if the Spearco cores are like this, but since Spearco has a listing for air cores and liquid cores I would have to assume there is a difference. Again, the C3 IC used air to air cores and advertised them as liquid cores.
 
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Old Dec 12, 2008 | 05:42 PM
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Is this a case of indifference, miscalculation, ineptitude, or fraud?
 
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