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Old May 19, 2009 | 11:57 AM
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Default Eibach Pro VS SRT springs

I hear alot of people on hear say they are happy with the Eibach springs.
In the past I have not considered them because of the progressive rate, wasnt interested in compromising handling for ride quality however im finding the stock SRT suspension to be a bit stiff for my liking in this car. (my 97 ACR neon is much more stiff but this is a different car)

So my question is do the eibach springs make the ride more tolerable because of the progressive rate? I wouldnt mind doing so while lowering the vehicle.
 
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Old May 19, 2009 | 12:42 PM
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Default Re: Eibach Pro VS SRT springs

Originally Posted by ACRucrazy
I hear alot of people on hear say they are happy with the Eibach springs.
In the past I have not considered them because of the progressive rate, wasnt interested in compromising handling for ride quality however im finding the stock SRT suspension to be a bit stiff for my liking in this car. (my 97 ACR neon is much more stiff but this is a different car)

So my question is do the eibach springs make the ride more tolerable because of the progressive rate? I wouldnt mind doing so while lowering the vehicle.
I think they make the ride stiffer. If thats possible. The SRT rides the same as my watercraft on the St. Croix River! I love it though!
 
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Old May 19, 2009 | 01:15 PM
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Default Re: Eibach Pro VS SRT springs

Originally Posted by ACRucrazy
I hear alot of people on hear say they are happy with the Eibach springs.
In the past I have not considered them because of the progressive rate, wasnt interested in compromising handling for ride quality however im finding the stock SRT suspension to be a bit stiff for my liking in this car. (my 97 ACR neon is much more stiff but this is a different car)
I believe only the rears are progressive, the spacing between the coils was tighter on one end. The fronts had equal spacing between all coils.

So my question is do the eibach springs make the ride more tolerable because of the progressive rate? I wouldnt mind doing so while lowering the vehicle.
It definitely made the ride on mine harsher. I also put in the number 1 spacers front and rear.
 
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Old May 19, 2009 | 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by SRT6-Man
I think they make the ride stiffer. If thats possible. The SRT rides the same as my watercraft on the St. Croix River! I love it though!
Watercraft on the St. Croix! Now that is fun!
 
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Old May 19, 2009 | 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by msheredy

It definitely made the ride on mine harsher. I also put in the number 1 spacers front and rear.
Did they have any stock?

Here are the pads/sizes I have had saved.

Front spring pads
A 210 321 01 84 5mm
A 210 321 02 84 9mm
A 210 321 03 84 13mm
A 210 321 04 84 17mm
A 210 321 05 84 21mm

Rear spring pads
A 210 325 01 84 5mm
A 210 325 02 84 9mm
A 210 325 03 84 13mm
A 210 325 04 84 17mm
 
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Old May 19, 2009 | 03:46 PM
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Default Re: Eibach Pro VS SRT springs

Originally Posted by ACRucrazy
Did they have any stock?
Are you asking if there were pads in there from the factory? If so, yes. It was equipped with the 3 dot pads in the front and 4 dot pads in the rear.
 
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Old May 19, 2009 | 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by msheredy
Are you asking if there were pads in there from the factory? If so, yes. It was equipped with the 3 dot pads in the front and 4 dot pads in the rear.
Thank you, I wasnt sure what the stock ones were.
I just ordered the 1 pads for the front and rear.
 
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Old May 19, 2009 | 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by ACRucrazy
Thank you, I wasnt sure what the stock ones were.
I just ordered the 1 pads for the front and rear.
let me know how it rides once the pads are installed,, i was going to awap my springs with a limited but now i just want it a little softer, jim
 
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Old May 19, 2009 | 04:50 PM
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after doing the H&R kit and Koni shocks, my ride is softer than before!

very strange. but if you tighten the rears on the koni's too much, the car will feel like it's going to rebound into the air on big bumps!
 
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Old May 19, 2009 | 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by j-fire
after doing the H&R kit and Koni shocks, my ride is softer than before!

very strange. but if you tighten the rears on the koni's too much, the car will feel like it's going to rebound into the air on big bumps!
Interesting, my initial thoughts with this car was the H&R kit. I have a set of konis in the garage just waiting for me to decide on springs. I have read that stiffer shocks and softer springs are the way to go with the rough roads, where smooth roads/race track you would want softer shocks and stiffer springs.

Im gonna try out the pads first, ultimately I want to lower the car. So we will start there.

I havent been able to find stock SRT spring rates but this is what I have dug up in my research.

NA x fire front 285 lbs
NA X fire rear 354 lbs

Eibach front 371 lbs
Eibach rear 285-371

No info on the H&R and B&Gs. Do you know what your H&R rates are?
 

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Old May 19, 2009 | 09:51 PM
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I have the Eibachs and love them! Well, I also have Koni adjustable shocks. All I know is that the combination rides much, much, much better than stock!! I have them turned a quarter past full soft for cruising and then crank up the stiffness for the curves. Just awesome! The best money I've spent on a car mod!
 
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Old May 19, 2009 | 10:30 PM
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Here is some info I found on spring rates.

The SRT-6 shares an awful lot in common with the outgoing SLK32 AMG, other than just the engine and gearbox. The dual control arm front and multilink rear suspension are virtually identical, although they are tuned in this application, with firmer damping and much stiffer spring rates. (They have gone up from 303 pounds per inch front and 337 pounds per inch rear to 451 lb/in and 480 lb/in respectively on the coupe.) The brakes, too, have come in for attention, with vented discs all around (the stock car has solid rear rotors), bigger front discs, and dual piston calipers in place of single-piston items. Chrysler Crossfire SRT-6 Preview & Specifications - Automobile Magazine

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The SRT-6 package includes stiffer spring rates (50% in the front, 42% in the rear, with higher jounce and rebound rates) and larger brake rotors, with vented rear discs. Oddly, there is no manual transmission available - a reversal from, say, the Spirit R/T, where the high-po version only came with a stick. - From www.allpar.com: Chrysler Crossfire and SRT-6 general information and car review

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Old May 21, 2009 | 08:09 AM
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Default Re: Eibach Pro VS SRT springs

Originally Posted by ACRucrazy
Did they have any stock?

Here are the pads/sizes I have had saved.

Front spring pads
A 210 321 01 84 5mm
A 210 321 02 84 9mm
A 210 321 03 84 13mm
A 210 321 04 84 17mm
A 210 321 05 84 21mm

Rear spring pads
A 210 325 01 84 5mm
A 210 325 02 84 9mm
A 210 325 03 84 13mm
A 210 325 04 84 17mm
ACRucrazy, would you happen to know witch front spring pads come stock on the SRT 6? My Eibachs have settled in front and I need to raise it up a little.
 
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Old May 21, 2009 | 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Steve Hellums
ACRucrazy, would you happen to know witch front spring pads come stock on the SRT 6? My Eibachs have settled in front and I need to raise it up a little.
03s I belive, 13mm.
 
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Old May 21, 2009 | 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by ACRucrazy
03s I belive, 13mm.
If thats true going from a 13mm to a 21mm would get me .3", a little over the 1/4" I'd like to get to. I've been meaning to try to find out for sure what comes on the front form the factory.
 
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Old May 21, 2009 | 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve Hellums
If thats true going from a 13mm to a 21mm would get me .3", a little over the 1/4" I'd like to get to. I've been meaning to try to find out for sure what comes on the front form the factory.
I was told the 03 was factory from a member who works at a parts department of a Dodge dealer, who also happened to put the eibachs in his car. I havent seen first hand but have to trust his word.

Ive ordered the 01s and will compare when I get around to installing them.
 
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