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Old Oct 10, 2010 | 10:33 PM
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Methinks you're going to need some much larger injectors and some ECU tuning on that beast.

1000cc's at least.
 
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Old Oct 10, 2010 | 10:35 PM
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Methinks you're going to need some much larger injectors and some ECU tuning on that beast.

1000cc's at least.
if i go above 30# hell yea .. but only looking at 28 at the moment.. and i beleave i can get a lil more out of the injectors for that with some more adjustments on the fule presure regulator
 
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Old Oct 10, 2010 | 11:20 PM
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Looking good Eric. When will you be ready for me to bring thoes DR's down for a few passes at the strip. BTW do you want me to bring some of Allens apple pie shine. You seam to like it. What strip do you run? Let me know and we will try to get a support group together.
 
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Old Oct 11, 2010 | 12:01 AM
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Looking good Eric. When will you be ready for me to bring thoes DR's down for a few passes at the strip. BTW do you want me to bring some of Allens apple pie shine. You seam to like it. What strip do you run? Let me know and we will try to get a support group together.
not sure when ill be rdy for the track..still have bugs to iron out.. i love the crap out of that shine but i beleave ill wate till next year... lol.. dont want to start a bad habit

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Carolina Dragway
302 Dragstrip Road
Aiken, South Carolina
 
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Old Oct 11, 2010 | 09:06 AM
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if i go above 30# hell yea .. but only looking at 28 at the moment.. and i beleave i can get a lil more out of the injectors for that with some more adjustments on the fule presure regulator
Make sure you log the duty cycle of the injectors. Remember you can have a safe A/F but the injector can still be static or maxed! That leads to a very high risk for the engine! Datalogging them if you can!
 
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Old Oct 11, 2010 | 09:53 AM
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Lookin' good! Is that a one way valve down by the CAI?
 
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Old Oct 11, 2010 | 11:20 AM
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i dont know what you guys are calling a safe afr, im seeing 13-15afr at wot under 19+psi boost on his datalogs.
 
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Old Oct 11, 2010 | 12:12 PM
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i dont know what you guys are calling a safe afr, im seeing 13-15afr at wot under 19+psi boost on his datalogs.
Hence my point about the injectors. Even if the fuel pressure were increased by 50%, that wouldn't put a dent in how much fuel he needs at 20psi let alone 28.
 
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Old Oct 11, 2010 | 12:15 PM
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if i go above 30# hell yea .. but only looking at 28 at the moment.. and i beleave i can get a lil more out of the injectors for that with some more adjustments on the fule presure regulator
Speaking from experience, you're not going to get the fuel you need at 28psi with an increase in fuel pressure.

It's not going to end well.
 
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Old Oct 11, 2010 | 12:35 PM
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Lookin' good! Is that a one way valve down by the CAI?
yep so once the turbo catchs up to the sc it will close
 
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Old Oct 11, 2010 | 12:39 PM
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the bottem line is my fuel pressure
 
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Old Oct 11, 2010 | 12:40 PM
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NICE!! Good thinking there man.
 
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Old Oct 11, 2010 | 12:42 PM
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Speaking from experience, you're not going to get the fuel you need at 28psi with an increase in fuel pressure.

It's not going to end well.
thanks for the advice im planing on working my way up to the injectors when i hit that wall with the fuelpump
 
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Old Oct 11, 2010 | 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by daithi2
i dont know what you guys are calling a safe afr, im seeing 13-15afr at wot under 19+psi boost on his datalogs.
i just need to chang the parameters on the fuelpresure regulator when to open up right now i have it at 20psi can drop it down to 18 and take care of that
 
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Old Oct 11, 2010 | 01:10 PM
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Hence my point about the injectors. Even if the fuel pressure were increased by 50%, that wouldn't put a dent in how much fuel he needs at 20psi let alone 28.
I got the following from a post by tri_zombie. This is a srt6 he is talking about of course, and don't know if this helps you or not. It's more than what I would know how to do for sure. "2) Fuel injectors cleaned, balanced and calibrated and matched up (interestingly enough my flow rates were 17% off between all the injectors) flowing 20% more plus a better pattern. cost about 150.00 each send out at least 12 so they can get the best match then sell the others off on ebay or add them to the intake ports (just after the supercharger) as a secondary set and control them with a mini piggy back for additional fuel (MD SRT6).
3) additional (second) fuel pump running 5-bar pressure @ WOT Waldig gave me the idea."
 
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Old Oct 11, 2010 | 01:24 PM
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I got the following from a post by tri_zombie. This is a srt6 he is talking about of course, and don't know if this helps you or not. It's more than what I would know how to do for sure. "2) Fuel injectors cleaned, balanced and calibrated and matched up (interestingly enough my flow rates were 17% off between all the injectors) flowing 20% more plus a better pattern. cost about 150.00 each send out at least 12 so they can get the best match then sell the others off on ebay or add them to the intake ports (just after the supercharger) as a secondary set and control them with a mini piggy back for additional fuel (MD SRT6).
3) additional (second) fuel pump running 5-bar pressure @ WOT Waldig gave me the idea."
sounds like the cost on all that would be alot... found Hi-Flow Fuel Injectors that TVT are selling.. might be more cost efficient

TVT Design, Crossfire/Mercedes/Genesis Performance Parts - SRT6/C32/SLK32
 
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Old Oct 11, 2010 | 02:12 PM
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Without meaning to sound like a broken record, at 660whp at 2 bar boost, you'll need 1000cc injectors to account for the increased BSFC.

I'm not sure what an "increased flow injector" is, but there are several cost effective options for 1000cc injectors that are much cheaper than $150.00 each.
 
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Old Oct 11, 2010 | 02:14 PM
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thanks man .... I appreciate everyones opinion on this subject now about the BMW's I have none .. there pretty nice cars and all don't get me wrong. Now on my car I'm waiting for the boost sensor so i can put the fuel mods on (Product Category Listing ) but for now i just unhooked the intake where i had the turbo piped into the supercharger so that it will be running like normal till i get the fuel fixed then will hook it back up and see what happens
Thats a very bad thing to do... With no resistance at the outlet, the turbo will simply overspeed. A very quick way to damage bearings or shatter a compressor wheel.
 
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Old Oct 11, 2010 | 03:08 PM
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Thats a very bad thing to do... With no resistance at the outlet, the turbo will simply overspeed. A very quick way to damage bearings or shatter a compressor wheel.
well its not like that now so im lucky nothing went rong while i was working on it
 
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Old Oct 11, 2010 | 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by sonoronos
Without meaning to sound like a broken record, at 660whp at 2 bar boost, you'll need 1000cc injectors to account for the increased BSFC.

I'm not sure what an "increased flow injector" is, but there are several cost effective options for 1000cc injectors that are much cheaper than $150.00 each.
TVT are saying that thay have 20% more flow.. i dont know

what type of injectors are you thinking about.. name/price and stuff
 
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