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Old Jun 27, 2005 | 07:33 PM
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Unhappy Problem with Meguiars Wax

Last month I applied Meguiars NXT tech wax for the first time. After my first wash, I noticed a lot of with spots all over the paint work, this must of been the wax. It seems to be stuck well to the paint but thought it would come off after a couple of washes, but no.

What happened?

What should I do?

I thought about buying some T-Cut metallic, is this good for cleaning the rubbish off paintwork? I also seem to have a lot of tar spots around parts of the car.

Any advice please.
 
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Old Jun 27, 2005 | 08:14 PM
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i would wash the car with "dawn or joy" dish washing soap. This will remove any remaining wax or contaminates on the paint surface.

then start over with waxing one panel at a time (a thin coat) and remove the wax when it is still wet with a microfiber towel. this is the key to the correct application and end results.
 
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Old Jun 27, 2005 | 11:46 PM
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Clay your car using dishwashing soap as lubricant then rinse it well.
 
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Old Jul 8, 2005 | 12:39 PM
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Any updates to this? I have been using the Tech Wax since it was new with no problems whatsoever. I personally feel that for the price, it can't be beat. Just curious. Thanks.

Joe
 
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Old Jul 8, 2005 | 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by MARK_UK
Last month I applied Meguiars NXT tech wax for the first time. After my first wash, I noticed a lot of with spots all over the paint work, this must of been the wax. It seems to be stuck well to the paint but thought it would come off after a couple of washes, but no.

What happened?

What should I do?

I thought about buying some T-Cut metallic, is this good for cleaning the rubbish off paintwork? I also seem to have a lot of tar spots around parts of the car.

Any advice please.

Mark,

The Meguiars NXT Tech Wax is easy on and easy off. I have never had any problems with it. I agree with Andrew and Cyril, strip all the wax off with Dawn dish washing detergent and if need be use a clay bar. You most likely have contaminates on your car, or they are water spots that are under the first coat of wax that was applied to the car. Take a peek at this web site, there is a wealth of info here.

http://autopia-carcare.com/freeguide.html


Hope this helps.
 
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Old Jul 8, 2005 | 06:48 PM
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The reason I can think off that could of done this is because I did it in direct sunlight which did seem to make it hard to rub off. It says to allow to dry to a haze but should I rub off straight away?

What is a clay bar?
What is this dishwashing soap, is it washing up liquid?
How would I apply these?

I gave the car a wash again today and the white spots are slowly coming off. It still looks like the paint work needs a real deep clean/scrub. I want to give the wax another go but fell the body work should be spotless before doing it.

THE TEMPTATION OF USING AN AUTOMATIC CAR WASH IS GETTING UNBEARABLE.
 
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Old Jul 8, 2005 | 07:46 PM
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Dishwashing soap is what it sounds like it is. The soap you use to hand wash dishes / plates. Clay is what it sounds like too... it's Clay. You can get it at some of the better auto parts stores here or you can order it. Clay cleans the contaminants from your paint.
 
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Old Jul 9, 2005 | 06:11 PM
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The dishwashing soap has a degreaser in it. A popular brand name here in the states is "Dawn" Dish soap. We use that to get a lot of the old wax and stuff off the car. It makes the surface "squeaky clean"! Don't wash your car in the sun if it's really hot out. The water dries on the paint too fast (especially on dark cars) and leaves spots on it. Dry the car with a lint free towel or shammie. That will leave the paint really clear of hard water marks and such. You can use a clay bar, that you can get at better auto parts stores in the U.S., but it's a lot of work.
I never wax my car in the sun, even if the mfg. says it's ok. The shade gives you more time to get it off, in case something takes you away from it for a few minutes. I use Meguiars Tech wax and am very happy with it. My car is white, though and I don't think flaws show up on it like it would on your Red one. I think the RED is awesome when it's clean and polished! Good luck!!
 
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Old Jul 9, 2005 | 11:58 PM
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Originally Posted by MARK_UK
The reason I can think off that could of done this is because I did it in direct sunlight which did seem to make it hard to rub off. It says to allow to dry to a haze but should I rub off straight away?


What is a clay bar?
What is this dishwashing soap, is it washing up liquid?
How would I apply these?
Well your first mistake was definitely washing it in direct sunlight. Cars should always be washed and especially waxed when the car is cool and in the shade.

Meguiar's makes a clay bar that you should be able to purchase in any auto supply store that sells Meguiar's - usually you would use it (the clay bar) with Meguiar's Quick Detailer as your agent to wet it with.

You should also consider contacting Meguiar's Customer Care Center next time (or now) any time there is a problem - I believe they at least have representatives in almost every major country. These guys are highly trained at solving any issues that you may have and there's probably nothing they haven't heard. You might be able to find some answers on their website or at least an appropriate number to reach them out for where you live: www.meguiars.com
 
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Old Jul 10, 2005 | 12:16 PM
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Thanks guys.

My local motor store (Halfords) has a wide range of Meguiar's car products. I've brought the quick clay detailing system and will use it when I need to give the car another wash. I'm moving house next week to one which has a covered driveway which will be handy.

Can someone post some tips on how to use the clay best?

MARK
 
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Old Jul 10, 2005 | 12:25 PM
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Can someone post some tips on how to use the clay best?
MARK
To use Cleaner Clay, work on a clean vehicle in a shady area, on a cool paint surface. Spray a 1 ft square area with lubricant and rub the bar lightly back and forth. It will grab at first, but keep rubbing. Keep the surface wet/lubricated. When the bar glides freely, the surface is clean. Wipe away any residue with a microfiber towel and move on to the next section. Store your clay bar by wetting it with lubricant and sealing it in a plastic bag in its original jar.
 
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Old Jul 10, 2005 | 01:00 PM
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To use Cleaner Clay, work on a clean vehicle in a shady area, on a cool paint surface. Spray a 1 ft square area with lubricant and rub the bar lightly back and forth. It will grab at first, but keep rubbing. Keep the surface wet/lubricated. When the bar glides freely, the surface is clean. Wipe away any residue with a microfiber towel and move on to the next section. Store your clay bar by wetting it with lubricant and sealing it in a plastic bag in its original jar.
Thanks.
 
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Old Jul 10, 2005 | 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by andrew
To use Cleaner Clay, work on a clean vehicle in a shady area, on a cool paint surface. Spray a 1 ft square area with lubricant and rub the bar lightly back and forth. It will grab at first, but keep rubbing. Keep the surface wet/lubricated. When the bar glides freely, the surface is clean. Wipe away any residue with a microfiber towel and move on to the next section. Store your clay bar by wetting it with lubricant and sealing it in a plastic bag in its original jar.
Just keep spraying the bar (and the car) with the Quick Detailer to keep it gliding on the car so you don't get clay marks. Don't be afraid to utilize meguiars.com also .
You'll be able to tell when it's working because it will probably sound and feel like sandpaper at first, and then a few rubs later its smoother to the touch than you ever knew was possible!
 
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Old Jul 12, 2005 | 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by andrew
i would wash the car with "dawn or joy" dish washing soap. This will remove any remaining wax or contaminates on the paint surface.

then start over with waxing one panel at a time (a thin coat) and remove the wax when it is still wet with a microfiber towel. this is the key to the correct application and end results.
NEVER USE DISH SOAP! This will not only strip all the wax off but will also help strip the clearcoat, its that bad for your cars finish. Now I've used NXT MANY times w/o a problem, but I can't understand your problem, could you PM me and be more specific, thanks!
 
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Old Jul 12, 2005 | 08:30 PM
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Just for the record, NXT CAN BE USED IN DIRECT SUNLIGHT! Its says so on the bottle and will come off very easy.


-wash the car real good using car wash soap, NOT dish soap!

-clay bar the car, follow the directions, its very easy!

-apply the NXT, let it sit for 15 minutes (like it tells you to) and then take it off.

I suggest using microfiber towels to do this as they are very soft and do a great job!
 
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Old Jul 12, 2005 | 09:10 PM
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I have always used Meguiar's and have even been sponsored by them in the past (and trained). I have their new stuff but haven't used it as I still have other bottles to work through so I won't argue that it is, I still can't see recommended ever doing it in direct sunlight just "because."

He obviously did not have a "clean" finish to begin with and should've used the clay before waxing. If there are contaminants on the clear coat the wax will stick to those instead of the car.

And I agree with Aero, I would never let anyone use dish soap on their car, I shuddered when I read that!
 
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Old Jul 12, 2005 | 09:12 PM
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after owning a highline auto detailing business for over 10 years...stripping the cars surface with dish soap...will NOT cause harm the vehicles paint surface. but you must be sure to wax the car afterwards for the needed the paint protection required. you can also use rubbing alcohol to strip the paint surface (silicones, waxes, etc.) as well.
 
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Old Oct 17, 2005 | 12:03 PM
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I've been told that acetone works great for removing wax, but I have never used it myself on a car. I have used it for other things to clean up paint with and it worked amazing. And 15 mins don't you think that is alittle long, it says "spread a thin even coat on entire vehicle and let dry to a haze". I think by the time you get done putting it on you could start buffing from where you started.
 
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Old Oct 17, 2005 | 02:22 PM
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I've been told that acetone works great for removing wax...
i would use rubbing alcohol to remove wax (safe)...not acetone (too harsh).
 
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Old Oct 17, 2005 | 04:11 PM
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Never use acetone! It will chemically melt the plastic clearcoat! If you don’t believe me try it on any piece of plastic and rub it, or just wait and watch it begin to melt, or if you are really brave try it on your car! (DON'T!) The voice of experience!
 
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