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Old Jul 17, 2006 | 06:27 PM
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Has anybody seen or heard of a LSD for our car? I used to own a Silvia, so I used to do a lot of drifting. I can get this car sideways, but the open diff doesn't let me slide as much as the outer wheel bites through the drift. As for the traction control that I keep hearing people having problems with, when I disable mine, it acts like its not even there. I've done a couple of spins in the car and the traction control didn't affect it at all. All that happens is the light flashes. Anyways, I am looking for an LSD. Any input would help.
 
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Old Jul 18, 2006 | 03:25 PM
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Supporters or not, its a fun hobby of mine that I have become addicted to. I don't compete, i just do it for fun, mostly in the rain as tires are not cheap. I can tell its not the traction control kicking on. I know the difference between a tire catching traction from slowing down, and being forced into traction by braking.

No the "Silvia" was not in the US, but the only difference between the 240SX and the Silvia was the engine. So "Riced up 240" isn't the proper term I'd use. Mine was a coupe with the Silvia front end, so bringing it to its true form however, would be correct. Mine was done long before it was considered the "cool" thing to do with a 240. The car was de-tuned so the 300ZX would sell more, by putting a truck engine under the hood. But anyway, I wasn't expecting to find many Jap car enthusiasts here, not to say anything bad about anybody here, its just a different taste.
 
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Old Jul 18, 2006 | 06:08 PM
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I'd give my car some LSD but I don't think it would have any effect, where is it's tounge anyways?

Actually I'm sure the SRT6 rear diff is a posi unit, so you can probably hit up the parts dealer, or try the Mercedes parts dealer and see what the SLK offers.

I wonder how long this differential has been used for in other model vehicles? Does it go back 5 years or 10 years??? so many questions, and so little answers.
 

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Old Jul 18, 2006 | 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackCrossFire6spd
Supporters or not, its a fun hobby of mine that I have become addicted to. I don't compete, i just do it for fun, mostly in the rain as tires are not cheap. I can tell its not the traction control kicking on. I know the difference between a tire catching traction from slowing down, and being forced into traction by braking.

No the "Silvia" was not in the US, but the only difference between the 240SX and the Silvia was the engine. So "Riced up 240" isn't the proper term I'd use. Mine was a coupe with the Silvia front end, so bringing it to its true form however, would be correct. Mine was done long before it was considered the "cool" thing to do with a 240. The car was de-tuned so the 300ZX would sell more, by putting a truck engine under the hood. But anyway, I wasn't expecting to find many Jap car enthusiasts here, not to say anything bad about anybody here, its just a different taste.
if you are 23, i doubt you did a slivia swap "before it was cool" because it started being cool when i was around 11 or 12, and I am 23 too. Unless you started turning wrenches and driving really, really young. asmof, silvia swaps got played out around 2001, then every started doing rb swaps into 240's, way more power potential...
 
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Old Jul 19, 2006 | 08:23 AM
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SRTs come with a one legger rear end too. As a general rule, MB doesn't put limited slip rears in their cars. There have been a couple exceptions but they let the electronics to the work. Bummer, eh?

RB in a 240? That almost sounds like fun when you think like the Mopar guys do. RB = Raised Block. That's the taller big blocks from the muscle car days. They included the 413, 426 wedge, and 440. Lots of torque but a wee bit heavy for that little chassis.

I did find a good use for a 240. We cut it up and removed the rear suspension to use in my bro-in-law's trike. He's a paraplegic and can't ride a bike safely. The independent suspension works nicely for us but we need to flip the center section over to match the backwards rotation of the motorcycle driveshaft.
 
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Old Jul 19, 2006 | 03:25 PM
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Unless I'm reading this post incorrectly, I'm starting to laugh my A ss off. Are you guys trying to tell me that you don't know the Crossfire already has a LSD ?

Talk about uninformed owners ! I bet you don't know how many spark plugs are in it either !!! LOL
 
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Old Jul 19, 2006 | 03:31 PM
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Unless I'm reading this post incorrectly, I'm starting to laugh my A ss off. Are you guys trying to tell me that you don't know the Crossfire already has a LSD ?

Talk about uninformed owners ! I bet you don't know how many spark plugs are in it either !!! LOL
shhh...i'm enjoying this drifting experts posts...ruining my fun hddp...
 
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Old Jul 19, 2006 | 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackCrossFire6spd
As for the traction control that I keep hearing people having problems with, when I disable mine, it acts like its not even there.
Try harder then... Even though you turn the TC off, it will still engage at a certain point. You'll start seeing the TC light on your speedo start flashing. It only disables the lower 80% of its kick-in range.
 
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Old Jul 19, 2006 | 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by feets
SRTs come with a one legger rear end too. As a general rule, MB doesn't put limited slip rears in their cars. There have been a couple exceptions but they let the electronics to the work. Bummer, eh?

RB in a 240? That almost sounds like fun when you think like the Mopar guys do. RB = Raised Block. That's the taller big blocks from the muscle car days. They included the 413, 426 wedge, and 440. Lots of torque but a wee bit heavy for that little chassis.

I did find a good use for a 240. We cut it up and removed the rear suspension to use in my bro-in-law's trike. He's a paraplegic and can't ride a bike safely. The independent suspension works nicely for us but we need to flip the center section over to match the backwards rotation of the motorcycle driveshaft.
rb is a skyline engine. the gt-s is rear wheel drive, almost a direct bolt in.
 
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Old Jul 19, 2006 | 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by x'ed
shhh...i'm enjoying this drifting experts posts...ruining my fun hddp...
SORRY !!!

Oh yeah, my mistake (chuckle) there is no LSD in the Crossfire, perhaps you guys should go buy one from Kleeman. LOL
 
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Old Jul 19, 2006 | 03:38 PM
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Try harder then... Even though you turn the TC off, it will still engage at a certain point. You'll start seeing the TC light on your speedo start flashing. It only disables the lower 80% of its kick-in range.
Anyone know how to reduce TC to less than 80%, maybe bring it down to 40%??? Or turn it off completely??
 
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Old Jul 19, 2006 | 03:45 PM
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Anyone know how to reduce TC to less than 80%, maybe bring it down to 40%??? Or turn it off completely??
It's not adjustable like the dimmer on a light... You can completely disable it by pulling the fuse in your ECU housing.
 
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Old Jul 19, 2006 | 05:04 PM
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It's not adjustable like the dimmer on a light... You can completely disable it by pulling the fuse in your ECU housing.
Good to know, I will have to try this soon, which fuse is it?

Have you done this yourself HDDP? did pulling the fuse to TC computer effect any other parameters of the engine?
 
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Old Jul 19, 2006 | 05:44 PM
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Good to know, I will have to try this soon, which fuse is it?
Perhaps you should download the 3,000+ page technical manual and start boning-up on the car. It will tell you exactly which fuses are for each aspect of the engine control unit.

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Have you done this yourself HDDP? did pulling the fuse to TC computer effect any other parameters of the engine?
Yes sir... my system is completely disabled... it will not affect the engine or it's operation, it's a drive train thing... but it may illuminate the BAS/ESP light which will reset after the fuse is reinstalled.

Happy reading on the manual...
 

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Old Jul 19, 2006 | 05:54 PM
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I just picked up Vol 1 and 2 factory repair manuals last friday, I'm getting on it bro! Will have it memorized by the end of the month.
 
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Old Jul 19, 2006 | 06:12 PM
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I just picked up Vol 1 and 2 factory repair manuals last friday, I'm getting on it bro! Will have it memorized by the end of the month.
OK DUDE, I'm not your bro... the manual is available for free on this site... GULP... wasted $.
 
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Old Jul 19, 2006 | 06:24 PM
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Not too bad, cost $60. I like the hard copy better than PDF.
 
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Old Jul 20, 2006 | 12:52 AM
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Originally Posted by feets
RB in a 240? That almost sounds like fun when you think like the Mopar guys do. RB = Raised Block. That's the taller big blocks from the muscle car days. They included the 413, 426 wedge, and 440. Lots of torque but a wee bit heavy for that little chassis.
Totally off subject (sorry HDDP) but feets, let's not forget the 426 "hemi" when talking RB's. We used to refer to them as "high blocks" way back when.
Actually, I think there were some 383's from the "50's" that were RB's also.
 
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Old Jul 20, 2006 | 01:02 PM
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Yes, the 383 was originally a raised block and so was the Plymouth 350. However, few people remember them so they don't get mentioned often.
The Hemi actually used a different block (head bolt pattern and mounting bosses) and isn't normally associated with the wedges or RBs.
 
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Old Jul 21, 2006 | 02:01 AM
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Originally Posted by feets
Yes, the 383 was originally a raised block and so was the Plymouth 350. However, few people remember them so they don't get mentioned often.
The Hemi actually used a different block (head bolt pattern and mounting bosses) and isn't normally associated with the wedges or RBs.
I didn't know that the 350 was also an RB, (learn something new on this forum almost daily) so that probably means some 361's were too. I knew the 426 Hemi was different, that's why there weren't any "factory" 440 HEMI'S, as my daughters misguided friend said his Dad had, in a 1968 Nova no less. I guess we just referred to them all as "high blocks" because they also had the same little "flat area" on the front, top-side of the block (as all the rest of the wedge RB's had) that made them so easy to identify.
I always liked Chrysler's wedge engine, it seemed nearly indestructible. I think alot of old retired Highway Patrol officers would probably agree with me on that. Since my Dad sold new Dodges, naturally I was a mopar lover. I especially liked the Max Wedge cars. My older brother used to take me to the drags in the early sixties and I'd watch them "clean house" so to speak. I suppose that's where I picked up the notion, "automatics" were best at drag racing.
 
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