I know we should use 91 octane and no ethanol. Who has this gas in the US. Shell is 10% ethanol. Suggestions needed. Thanks Ron

 

Good luck.
2005 Energy Policy Act requires blending renewable fuels in the gasoline supply.
The tax creditis involved will make it difficult for refiners to avoid.

 

Why do you say we should use gas without Ethanol? Where did you read that?

 

I thought it was somewhere in the manual. Maybe not!

 

From the Manual:

Gasoline/Oxygenate Blends

Some fuel suppliers blend unleaded gasoline with materials
called oxygenates such as 10% ethanol, MTBE and
ETBE. Oxygenates are required in some areas of the
country during the winter months to reduce carbon
monoxide emissions. Fuels blended with these oxygenates

may be used in your vehicle.

 

Very Good! Guess its ok. Thanks

 

More power and better mileage if you can find it without ethanol. We have one store that has 87 and 93 without any in it.

 

I have located one Shell station in the area that posts "No Alcohol,
No Ethanol" in their gas. It is about 10-15 cents per gallon higher than
any other station. Of course, my car runs great with it.
I get a steady 21 MPG with this gas, as opposed to 18 MPG with ethanol blend.

 

Do you know if there is any other way to research to see if anyone in the area has gas w/o ethanol? I asked someone behind the counter and they looked at me like I was insane LOL

 

I could only find a listing of stations in Wisconsin, but there are others
out there that are seeking the non-ethanol stations.
I know in Missouri they are mandated to use ethanol, but it is not
strictly enforced.

 

LMAO!! .........

 

Dont look in Oregon..... all gas here has ethanol......

edit: except RACE gas! :-)

 

some stations that cater to RVs or Marine applications might have non-ethanol fuel.

 

Wisconsin does not mandate the use of Ethanol though none of our companies C-stores are using Ethanol at all & haven't for the past year.
Just like gasoline, Ethanol's price fluctuates like crazy & for at least the past 16 months or so the price of it has far exceeded the price of bulk gasoline.
Even during the past price spikes before the economy collapsed we weren't blending with Ethanol too frequently. It all depended on price. When gas prices were floating around $4.00 a gallon our gasoline business margins were for crap & if Ethanol was available & cheap we'd blend.
We are required to note on each pump throughout the state that the gasoline "may contain up to 10% Ethanol".
Nowadays, that's extremely unlikely!

But, if you live in a state that must blend then you're stuck. Since all gasoline you purchase in one local region probably comes from the same tank farm the odds of all the stations in one area having Ethanol blended is very high.

BTW, most station employees wouldn't ever have a clue about what their particular gas contains unless they're given the answers from the owners or management or the delivery driver, if they'd ask. Since the blends & the percentage's thereof are determined at the time the gas is pulled from the tanks the guy behind the desk wouldn't know.

 

Here in Yukon,OK we have a place called "E-Gas". They advertise "We sell only pure gasoline-NO alcohol or nitrogen addatives". It's about $.15 higher than the places that do mix. I only use their gas, my baby runs great.

 

Ethanol is ok but less performance and less MPG. Everywhere around me stations are using 10%. My manual states not to use methanol for some reason.

 

In September I drove from Custer, South Dakota to Seattle (long day)! and never saw straight gas anywhere. The mixed stuff cost me about four miles per gallon. I really cannot see a plus side to this stuff.

 

I am having a very difficult time locating any non-ethanol gas here in Indy, can anyone give me any tips? I have searched online and found nothing.

Also, I found an article that calls non-ethanol gas E0. Is this a term widely used??

Thanks, just trying to find something nice for my gal to sip on...

 

Hey, John !!

Is Ethanol mandated in Ind.??
Are you sure that the gas you're purchasing contains Ethanol? Remember that just because a pump has a "may contain" Ethanol label stuck on it somewhere doesn't necessarily mean that it actually has any Ethanol mixed in.

Can't say I've ever heard of the term E0. I'll ask though I can't believe anyone would use that term, I mean, E15 designates 15% Ethanol blend. Saying "E0" is like saying "gas"; why bother?

 

Here in MN you'll find premium fuel at certain stations that is labeled "Non-Oxygenated" and I generally try to fill up with that when I can since I see better fuel economy and the car feels a little more peppier and I get the satisfaction of knowing that I'm not partaking in this whole ethanol crap. BTW, I grew up a farmer and have laughed at the stupidity of this whole ethanol craze. Might sound contrary to what might be expected but when you look at the numbers, they tell an entirely different story. If you took every tillable acre in the US and grew corn only for the purpose of making ethanol, you would barely be able to satisfy the fuel demands of the part of the Upper Midwest. We're talking about North and South Dakota, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Nebraska and Iowa here. These are states with low population densities. Now that we've used every tillable acre to make fuel for these six states, where do we get our food from? Another thing to look at is all the propane used to convert the corn into ethanol. I was at a ethanol cooperative banquet one night with my dad and I jokingly asked one of the guys on the board there why they bring in SO much propane to convert the corn to ethanol and why they didn't use ethanol to convert the corn into ethanol? He didn't have a word to say but a got a few dirty looks from people sitting around the table. Makes you wonder what's so great about the fuel at this point but it gets even deeper when you take into account the cost of corn, the fact that diesel is used to power the tractors that plant, cultivate, spray and combine the corn, then propane is used to dry the corn and finally, more diesel is used in the semis that haul the corn to the elevators and eventually to the ethanol refineries. If there weren't subsidies there along the way, no one would be doing it because they'd all be broke before the corn even left the field. Now I'm not saying we shouldn't subsidize agriculture because one way or another everyone will weather its through taxes or a direct link between the price of goods but we should be spending this money on something that will be a viable alternative for the future, not until the next fad fuel comes along and we're looking at billion dollar distilleries on the side of rural roads. Ethanol is a great idea but the means by which it is made is just not effective. We need to be looking into using switchgrass and biomass to accomplish this, not tie up a food supply with this vaporware of a fuel source. Now that I'm stepping off the soap box, I'll throw this out there, when everything is done, my car will be running on E85 but not for economic or environmental reasons. E85 is probably one of the most readily available race gases available in here in the Midwest. You can find it at just about any gas station within a 10 mile radius. It burns cooler, has more power and is cheaper. The only caveat of this though is that it has to be properly tuned so it doesn't run lean and it will probably only get 10mpg when I'm done with it but when you're on the strip, who cares about economy, right?