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Old Jan 17, 2012 | 03:29 PM
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Engine failed on my 06 crossfire at 65k...blowing smoke, massive amounts. Dealership scratched their head and said they had never seen a crossfire engine fail. They also said that they would not be willing to tear down, investigate and rebuild. Warranty expired.... My buddy is the Service Manager of the local Ford dealership (same chain as Chysler) and he offered to get me a new engine at cost...$17,000. Holy crap! So I bought a used engine with low miles for $1,400. Engine change on the crossfire is a piece of cake! Gotta love when an engine is designed to account for removal and replacment. No special tools and all touch point were easy access. Took about 10 hours.
 
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Old Jan 17, 2012 | 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Will2005!
Engine failed on my 06 crossfire at 65k...blowing smoke, massive amounts. Dealership scratched their head and said they had never seen a crossfire engine fail. They also said that they would not be willing to tear down, investigate and rebuild. Warranty expired.... My buddy is the Service Manager of the local Ford dealership (same chain as Chysler) and he offered to get me a new engine at cost...$17,000. Holy crap! So I bought a used engine with low miles for $1,400. Engine change on the crossfire is a piece of cake! Gotta love when an engine is designed to account for removal and replacment. No special tools and all touch point were easy access. Took about 10 hours.
Im glad you were able to get it swapped for a decent price. For another grand you could have swapped in a V8 .. Where are you located at??
 
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Old Jan 17, 2012 | 03:51 PM
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Josh... he spent $1400 not the $17000......

OP, glad you found a used one to swap in. You were doing the routine maintenance every 7k miles...right?? It would be really nice to know what was wrong with the engine to yanked... VERY odd for the 3.2L engine to blow up under normal usage....
 
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Old Jan 17, 2012 | 03:55 PM
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I would ask the OP to slowly tear into that engine. See if he could find any reason for this type of failure. I bet a few more members would also be interested in a teardown. Might just be something we all can use for the future? Sorry about your trouble!
 
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Old Jan 17, 2012 | 04:06 PM
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Josh... he spent $1400 not the $17000......

OP, glad you found a used one to swap in. You were doing the routine maintenance every 7k miles...right?? It would be really nice to know what was wrong with the engine to yanked... VERY odd for the 3.2L engine to blow up under normal usage....
2003 Mercedes CL500 Engine (Used 215 Type CL500) For Sale - Mercedes Engines & Motors Sales

These are high mileage but I have seen some on this site from a good amount of digging that are ~50xxx-70xxx miles for not much more. Thats what he paid for his motor, then tack on a grand for the Mercedes DAS system and going through this, that, and other misc. items and BOOM you got a 5.0L . Bob didnt spend a whole lot of money getting his V8, Its all about the deals, and a good amount of patience. ... I am definately curious as to what happened to the motor also, especially being as I am just about to hit 70,000mi.

I almost forgot, Tack on another 20 for an 18 pack.
 
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Old Jan 17, 2012 | 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by sk8erjosh09
BS on an 18 pack, make it a full case!
 
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Old Jan 17, 2012 | 04:28 PM
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BS on an 18 pack, make it a full case!
Of course with the sight lube it seems easier but it may take longer than the expected 10 hours.
 
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Old Jan 17, 2012 | 09:47 PM
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what color was the smoke and any abnormal noises?
 
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Old Jan 18, 2012 | 01:46 AM
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Wow, that is rare. You think the car may have been running lean? Sorry to see that you had to go through all of that.
 
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Old Jan 18, 2012 | 09:36 AM
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If it was white smoke it's probably just a head gasket. If it's black smoke then that's something different. You didn't state whether it was running badly or just smoking.
 
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Old Feb 16, 2012 | 06:33 PM
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If any of our engines decides to die here in the UK, I think were be OK for a good replacement there are loads of write offs that appear on Ebay.co.uk and the engines are fiiiiine!

Cant believe your engine blew!
 
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Old Feb 17, 2012 | 10:05 AM
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Well, the engine change took only about 10 hours but I have spent the last 3 weeks trying to get the new engine to start. The issue I was having was no power was getting to the Starter. Had the Chrysler lead tech come out to my house (good to know folks) and hook up his computer and the PCM was not communicating. So I borrowed the service manuals from Chrysler and my buddy and I ran though the troubleshooting trees for no response from PCM. Guess I should clarify that I am not a car guy, but my buddy is a motor head from way back. Anyway, we shot all the wires and it showed several open grounds. When I installed the newer engine it was a 2007 engine going into my 2006 crossfire. We had all kinds of cosmic thoughts about anti-theft lockouts, starter lockouts, SKREEM(I wanted to), but ultimately figured that somehow the 2007 wiring harness was not compatible with the 2006 car, PCM, RCM, etc. So, I pulled the harness off the old engine...crazy that you have to pull the intake manifold to disconnect the two anti-knock sensors. Then I started pulling the harness off the new, installed engine. I got the easy stuff disconnected on top first and then decided to tackle the difficult connections...alternator and starter. When I started pulling the alternator, I noticed that the outer protective sleeve of the wiring harness had a small crack. I bent the sleeve back and found that the main power wire was cut in half and the three other wires were severely damaged. I Spliced and tapped the wires and reconnected all connections...damn thing started on first try and ran great. So, for all of you having mystery start and no start issues, comply with your mystery no start RCM procedure and then start checking your wiring harness. On a side note, I think my crossfire had engine issues since I've owned it. I bought it as a second owner...car had 11K miles and i got it for only $17k…thought I got a great deal. It ran fine for several years before the engine hard failed hard (still haven’t had time to tear down the engine but we are thinking cracked or broken ring)...the engine I just installed quickly showed me what I had been missing. Amazing the difference in torque and get up and go. wow!
 
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Old Feb 17, 2012 | 01:00 PM
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I'm glad you got it figured out. Tis also real good to here how easy it is to pull and replace the engine. This forum rocks!
 
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Old Feb 17, 2012 | 06:46 PM
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Please be sure to post when you find out what failed in the old one. The prior owner may have had one of those "professional" oil changes done where they only put 5 quarts of oil in and they drove it that way for awhile???
 
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