What are you paying for premium fuel?
Originally Posted by Kurts
We all know that Europe has been paying outrageous prices for gas for decades (hence the mini-Cooper!) but my point was that Canada is an oil exporting nation. $4.42 p/gal. is pretty high given that. After all, Venezuelans are paying $.12 p/gal!
Tax rate on Gas is about 35%, we also have an alleged gas shortage in this area due to refinery problems. Diesel is also in short supply.
Originally Posted by stevieb
Point taken, but dont we have british petroleum?
SO-Cal is around $3.70-$3.90 for 91 octane, plus they dilute it with alkyhol for even less mileage. I get 18 mpg if lucky on the stuff.
Then our Diesel prices are $4.00-$4.55 at the Mobil stations. Kinda takes away the the extra mileage gain from using diesel engines.
Then our Diesel prices are $4.00-$4.55 at the Mobil stations. Kinda takes away the the extra mileage gain from using diesel engines.
Originally Posted by scooter
this is an extremely sore topic for us california folks.
i try not to think about it.
i try not to think about it.
Originally Posted by olamar
I found $3.09 for 91 octane - Premium here in Denver.
Otis
Otis
The octane can be lower in Denver because of the altitude.
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Octane ratings can vary greatly from region to region. For example, the minimum octane rating available in much of the United States is 87 AKI and the highest is 93. However this does not mean that the gas is different.
In the Rocky Mountain (high altitude) states, 85 octane is the minimum octane and 91 is the maximum octane available in fuel. The reason for this is that in higher-altitude areas, a typical combustion engine draws in less air per cycle due to the reduced density of the atmosphere. This directly translates to reduced absolute compression in the cylinder, therefore deterring knock.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octane_rating
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Octane ratings can vary greatly from region to region. For example, the minimum octane rating available in much of the United States is 87 AKI and the highest is 93. However this does not mean that the gas is different.
In the Rocky Mountain (high altitude) states, 85 octane is the minimum octane and 91 is the maximum octane available in fuel. The reason for this is that in higher-altitude areas, a typical combustion engine draws in less air per cycle due to the reduced density of the atmosphere. This directly translates to reduced absolute compression in the cylinder, therefore deterring knock.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octane_rating
Originally Posted by BestTimesNow
The octane can be lower in Denver because of the altitude.
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Octane ratings can vary greatly from region to region. For example, the minimum octane rating available in much of the United States is 87 AKI and the highest is 93. However this does not mean that the gas is different.
In the Rocky Mountain (high altitude) states, 85 octane is the minimum octane and 91 is the maximum octane available in fuel. The reason for this is that in higher-altitude areas, a typical combustion engine draws in less air per cycle due to the reduced density of the atmosphere. This directly translates to reduced absolute compression in the cylinder, therefore deterring knock.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octane_rating
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Octane ratings can vary greatly from region to region. For example, the minimum octane rating available in much of the United States is 87 AKI and the highest is 93. However this does not mean that the gas is different.
In the Rocky Mountain (high altitude) states, 85 octane is the minimum octane and 91 is the maximum octane available in fuel. The reason for this is that in higher-altitude areas, a typical combustion engine draws in less air per cycle due to the reduced density of the atmosphere. This directly translates to reduced absolute compression in the cylinder, therefore deterring knock.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octane_rating
Originally Posted by stevieb
so if 91 octane is premium for you guys what is standard???
Usually each octane grade is 10 cents more than the one below it. If 87 was $3.00, 89 would be $3.10, and 92 would be $3.20. Then they have their pricing wars where they will drop a couple of pennies off the lowest grade to bring people in only to find the better octane grades didn't change at all.
The cheapest gas close to me right now is 87 octane for $3.03 while the 89 octane is $3.13, and the 92 octane is $3.30. I talking self-serve stations with these prices. If they pump it for you, they may add as much as 10 cents a gallon.
Bob M
Originally Posted by Sandgrounder
Tax rate on Gas is about 35%, we also have an alleged gas shortage in this area due to refinery problems. Diesel is also in short supply. 

Just went up this morning here. About 40 miles north of Tampa. $3.41 for Sunoco 93. Oil companies are saying the profit margin on fuel is slim and they expect to raise the price by 20 to 30 cents in the coming months. Guess several billion dollars profit per quarter is not enough for big oil. Don't even get me started on Bush.. We still love the Fire..




