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Old Jul 14, 2008 | 01:47 PM
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When In-Bev starts to stalk Sam Adams I'll get worried.
Haha! You and me both!
 
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Old Jul 14, 2008 | 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by chuck65
Thanks for the great beer site. I couldn't find Billy beer on it. You remember Billy beer don't you? It was named after Billy Carter, president Jimmy Carter's brother. It's kind of ironic that this thread is about Budweiser because when Billy beer was being sold it cut into Bud's profits and they decided to investigate. Bud scientists sent an unmarked vile of Billy beer to an independent lab for analysis.

When the sample came back it said "We're very sorry to inform you that your horse has diabetes.


I think that we have become numb about the corporate mergers and buyouts. It's all a part of globalization and we better learn how to compete. One big plus on the rising oil price is it is costing countries that export to the US more to ship their products here and I read that some companies are returning to the US. Our weak dollar also makes our products cheaper to buy globally.

I certainly have empathy for anyone losing their jobs because I lost mine after 20 years with Champion Spark Plug so I know how it feels. Luckily I was able to transfer into engineering for another 5 years and left on my own.
Chuck, I had deleted most of the Carter years from memory. Thanks for reminding me of Billy. Very funny LMAO.

As for the cost of shipment and low value of the dollar. What Americans fail to realize is that a high dollar value ships jobs overseas faster than an EPA mandate.

My company is proof of your statement as we have beat the Mexican and Chineese bids on packaging this year. That means that two printers and my company are putting more Americans to work here in the good ole' USA. The contracts from Disney and AVON just keep coming. Both companies are glad to keep it stateside.

It also means that I could buy my Crossfire last January.

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Old Jul 14, 2008 | 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Franc Rauscher
My company is proof of your statement as we have beat the Mexican and Chineese bids on packaging this year. That means that two printers and my company are putting more Americans to work here in the good ole' USA. The contracts from Disney and AVON just keep coming. Both companies are glad to keep it stateside.

It also means that I could buy my Crossfire last January.

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YOU DA MAN FRANC ! A tip of the hat to you my friend !
 
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Old Jul 14, 2008 | 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by chuck65
Thanks for the great beer site. I couldn't find Billy beer on it. You remember Billy beer don't you? It was named after Billy Carter, president Jimmy Carter's brother. It's kind of ironic that this thread is about Budweiser because when Billy beer was being sold it cut into Bud's profits and they decided to investigate. Bud scientists sent an unmarked vile of Billy beer to an independent lab for analysis.

When the sample came back it said "We're very sorry to inform you that your horse has diabetes.


I think that we have become numb about the corporate mergers and buyouts. It's all a part of globalization and we better learn how to compete. One big plus on the rising oil price is it is costing countries that export to the US more to ship their products here and I read that some companies are returning to the US. Our weak dollar also makes our products cheaper to buy globally.

I certainly have empathy for anyone losing their jobs because I lost mine after 20 years with Champion Spark Plug so I know how it feels. Luckily I was able to transfer into engineering for another 5 years and left on my own.
lol yeah i remember billy beer, i was a little kid and remember seeing it in the stores. pretty funny a presidents brother selling cheap beer.
 
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Old Jul 14, 2008 | 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by chuck65
Bud scientists sent an unmarked vile of Billy beer to an independent lab for analysis.
i was too young to drink Billy Beer when it was out, but from what i've heard, your misuse of the word "vile" describes Billy Beer accurately.
 
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Old Jul 14, 2008 | 04:05 PM
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ok guys dont get me wrong but wasnt Bud originally a czechoslovakian beer??
 
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Old Jul 14, 2008 | 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr. F
i was too young to drink Billy Beer when it was out, but from what i've heard, your misuse of the word "vile" describes Billy Beer accurately.
Must have been a Freudian slip. Biily used to keep a six pack between his legs while driving his pickup and would gage how far he went by how many cans of beer he drank and how many times he had to stop and take a whiz. Classy guy huh?
 
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Old Jul 14, 2008 | 06:14 PM
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It is a shame IMO to see A-B sold to a non-US buyer.
Perhaps folks should start supporting their local (or somewhat local) microbreweries.
Another good beer site:
http://beeradvocate.com/
 
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Old Jul 14, 2008 | 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by stevieb
ok guys dont get me wrong but wasnt Bud originally a czechoslovakian beer??
Budweiser is a Pilsner beer, named after the region of Pilsner in what has been E germany, Poland, Czechloslovakia. The borders have been argured and fought over a lot.
It is a bitter, lighter beer than most German beers. Designed as a thirst quencher more than a meal. Heavey, sweet, European beers are actually interchangable with bread in terms of nurishment and calories. Not designed for guzzling, but slow sipping.
And are served warm; room temperature. Not the best on a hot scorching day when most of us would prefer, no demand, a crisp, really cold brew. And lots of it.

Say what you want about American beers, but they are brewed for our life style, not to be cheap as some claim. Here's a conundrum, how can anybody be snooty about beer? I get it with wines,cigars and scotch but BEER?


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Old Jul 15, 2008 | 05:27 AM
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I don't consider myself "snooty" about beer but I believe it is something that is as cherishable of a passion as cigars and wine. I actually brew my own beer in my home, attempting to brew oktoberfest type beer's and am pretty passionate about it. Samuel Adams is, in my opinion, the best American mass-produced beer by far. There are several small breweries that have great tasting beers (you must try Left Hand Milk Stout if you have an opportunity) but in general, if you want to get a good mass-produced beer you're going overseas.

Budweiser...back on topic...is utter ****. Guinness...not on topic...is epic good
 
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Old Jul 15, 2008 | 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by 04xfirecoupe
Budweiser...back on topic...is utter ****. Guinness...not on topic...is epic good
Just for the record: I agree with the majority that Budweiser tastes similiar to what I would think animal **** would taste !

But actually the taste of the beer was NOT the topic, the fact that another US corporate giant has decided to take the money and run. And if any one has been reading anything about this company taking over, I would Highly suspect American jobs are on the line !
 
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Old Jul 15, 2008 | 01:24 PM
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budweiser uses hops and rice...it is made to very stringent standards. worked in the labs checking the supply of raw products to anhauser busch....tough customer...
 
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Old Jul 15, 2008 | 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Stogey
Just for the record: I agree with the majority that Budweiser tastes similiar to what I would think animal **** would taste !

But actually the taste of the beer was NOT the topic, the fact that another US corporate giant has decided to take the money and run. And if any one has been reading anything about this company taking over, I would Highly suspect American jobs are on the line !
Stogey, you didn't realize that you were starting a beer tasting thread did you? The subject keeps drifting off topic doesn't it. Maybe it shows the short attention span of the beer drinking posters ( me included), could be a loss of brain cells because of the alcohol. Personally I don't have any idea what animal **** tastes like. Keep on trying Stogie.
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Old Jul 15, 2008 | 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by arado
budweiser uses hops and rice...it is made to very stringent standards. worked in the labs checking the supply of raw products to anhauser busch....tough customer...
This thread is not about beer taste but so many thought they could just disc a good American beer, I had to chime in. We both worked with A-Bush.
You are right, they are a very high standards, very tough customer. Their beer is the No1 selling in the USA for a reason, High Quality. And everyone I ever worked with there earned their stripes.

But the AB family is kinda like the Kennedy Clan. They have their version of Teddy and some of the bad seed cousins. St Louisans consider them royalty of sorts. Personaly, I don't care for them much.

More on the topic, the company board held out, talked tough and got the stock holders $10 more per share. They ain't stupid or lazy.
In-Bev will slash and cut any fat and some philanthropy but the quality of the brew will remain. Heineken has not changed. Bud, Bush and Michelob will likely stay the same.


This thread is interesting. People complain that another American icon is being bought by a foreign interest and then brag that they drink an imported beer cause Bud ain't really a beer.

It is in most of America.

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BTW the American jobs that are on the line are the upper management. You know, the ones liberals keep telling the voters, should pay more taxes. The working folks in the brewery will still be there and paying (more?) taxes
 

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Old Jul 15, 2008 | 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Franc Rauscher
Budweiser is a Pilsner beer, named after the region of Pilsner in what has been E germany, Poland, Czechloslovakia. The borders have been argured and fought over a lot.
It is a bitter, lighter beer than most German beers. Designed as a thirst quencher more than a meal. Heavey, sweet, European beers are actually interchangable with bread in terms of nurishment and calories. Not designed for guzzling, but slow sipping.
And are served warm; room temperature. Not the best on a hot scorching day when most of us would prefer, no demand, a crisp, really cold brew. And lots of it.

Say what you want about American beers, but they are brewed for our life style, not to be cheap as some claim. Here's a conundrum, how can anybody be snooty about beer? I get it with wines,cigars and scotch but BEER?
Sorry to rain on your parade, BUT(T) ...

A real Budweiser (not the american horse **** they call Budweiser) is a Check beer, brewed in Check republic. It has ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with a Pilsner. And contrary to the american horse **** called Budweiser, a real Budvar is something tasty.

I long back to my old stomping grounds in terms of beer.
 
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Old Jul 15, 2008 | 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by 04xfirecoupe
I don't consider myself "snooty" about beer but I believe it is something that is as cherishable of a passion as cigars and wine. I actually brew my own beer in my home, attempting to brew oktoberfest type beer's and am pretty passionate about it. Samuel Adams is, in my opinion, the best American mass-produced beer by far. There are several small breweries that have great tasting beers (you must try Left Hand Milk Stout if you have an opportunity) but in general, if you want to get a good mass-produced beer you're going overseas.

Budweiser...back on topic...is utter ****. Guinness...not on topic...is epic good
I toured Guinness when I was in Ireland, amazing beer with an amazing heritage. Regardless, just because a company is American owned does not mean the product is good. Budweiser aka good ole boy beer is poor quality bad tasting **** in a bottle. Beer can and is as fine as wine when made properly, there are bottles of beer out there that costs thousands of dollars for those that can appreciate it. go look around on http://ratebeer.com/Ratings/Ratings-Beer.asp and see some of the reviews of the top beer, tasting, creating and enjoying fine beer, just like wine can be an art.
 
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Old Jul 15, 2008 | 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by mrphotoman
I toured Guinness when I was in Ireland, amazing beer with an amazing heritage. Regardless, just because a company is American owned does not mean the product is good. Budweiser aka good ole boy beer is poor quality bad tasting **** in a bottle. Beer can and is as fine as wine when made properly, there are bottles of beer out there that costs thousands of dollars for those that can appreciate it. go look around on http://ratebeer.com/Ratings/Ratings-Beer.asp and see some of the reviews of the top beer, tasting, creating and enjoying fine beer, just like wine can be an art.
Ahh yes, Guinness is by far one of the best off the shelf beers in the supermarkets these days. God I love those Drafts, and the stoutes are superb with a nice red steak on the grill. ahh taste like chocolate milk of beers
 
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Old Jul 15, 2008 | 05:15 PM
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i heard they will be moving the Budwieser plants to Iraq and other middle eastern countries. Cut laybor cost, and build up thier economy. you know the story...

Originally Posted by Franc Rauscher
This thread is not about beer taste but so many thought they could just disc a good American beer, I had to chime in. We both worked with A-Bush.
You are right, they are a very high standards, very tough customer. Their beer is the No1 selling in the USA for a reason, High Quality. And everyone I ever worked with there earned their stripes.

But the AB family is kinda like the Kennedy Clan. They have their version of Teddy and some of the bad seed cousins. St Louisans consider them royalty of sorts. Personaly, I don't care for them much.

More on the topic, the company board held out, talked tough and got the stock holders $10 more per share. They ain't stupid or lazy.
In-Bev will slash and cut any fat and some philanthropy but the quality of the brew will remain. Heineken has not changed. Bud, Bush and Michelob will likely stay the same.


This thread is interesting. People complain that another American icon is being bought by a foreign interest and then brag that they drink an imported beer cause Bud ain't really a beer.

It is in most of America.

roadster with a stick

BTW the American jobs that are on the line are the upper management. You know, the ones liberals keep telling the voters, should pay more taxes. The working folks in the brewery will still be there and paying (more?) taxes
 
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Old Jul 15, 2008 | 05:38 PM
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I have had the Czech Bud , and it is good, but it is one of the lighter beers you will find in Europe. Not exactly what I am looking for when I go to Europe.

Inbev has been a beer juggernaut for several years, buying up many beer company they think can make money.

My European friend always tell me American Bud is like sex on the beach, because it is F***ing near water.

AB uses rice instead of barley, not corn instead of hops. You can not make beer with out hops.

I am sorry to see AB taken over by a foreign company, but than again, they also make Stella. Maybe they will make Bud drinkable.
 
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Old Jul 15, 2008 | 07:20 PM
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I'm absoulutely amazed that this "p*ss in a bottle beer" as you all describe has captured more than 60% of the US market.

It is a "Pepsi" of beers.

It is brewed to please the masses.

It is a pilsner style.

It is a cold brewed, light Lager beer.

And plenty of folks drink it here and around the world.

Raised on a dairy farm, I know what P*ss tastes like. It splashes off the concrete floor while you're hooking up milking machines to teats. Cows don't care where you are standing when they let go.

The comparison is just mean. Insisting on it is just stupid.


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BTW apleschu, I never claimed American Bud was the Czeck Budweiser. They are very different beers. SO?
 

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