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itsky 06-29-2010 12:57 AM

Crossfires Across America - Rocky Mountain Edition - Base City
 
Folks, I have three areas of Colorado that we could base the trip from:

Central City/Black Hawk
Attractions:
- Rocky Mountain National Park
- Mt Evans Highway (14,264' high!) - Paved all the way to the top!
- Georgetown Loop - Ride the Historic Georgetown Loop Railroad :: Mountain Train Rides & Family Activities Denver Colorado
- Plenty of twisty road routes

Colorado Springs
Attractions:
- Pikes Peak/Manitou Springs - Drive or cog railway - Highway to top is only partially paved
- Caņon City - Royal Gorge - Railroad trip/Buckskin Joe's
- Bishop Castle - Bishop Castle, Wetmore, Colorado
- Cripple Creek/Victor - Gold tour
- Garden of the Gods
- Air Force Academy
- Flying W Ranch http://www.flyingw.com/

Western Slope - Durango
Attractions:
- Mesa Verde - http://www.nps.gov/meve/index.htm
- Million Dollar Highway
- Black Canyon of the Gunnison NP - http://www.nps.gov/blca/index.htm
- Four Corners
- Colorado National Monument - http://www.nps.gov/colm/index.htm
- Telluride/Ouray
- Durango-Silverton Railroad - http://www.durangotrain.com
- Monument Valley
- Great Sand Dunes National Park - http://www.nps.gov/grsa/index.htm

Erzer 06-29-2010 08:30 PM

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My oh my. You really make this hard itsky, very hard. I voted and I'll leave it at that.

smfrycruzr 06-30-2010 08:52 AM

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We've been to two/three of those areas and would go back again and again.....:p
Any where is going to be fun, lots of Crossfires and twisty roads, all the people, and the Rockies as a local. Life IS good! :cool:

Valk 07-05-2010 11:52 PM

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Ok folks, let's not let this die due to the holiday.
I know this is quite a drive for many of you and while some would have preferred this to go more towards the East, North, or South, you really need to attend this one and perhaps when someone volunteers their region/state and the group votes on it, we'll end up somewhere closer to where you want to be the next time.

With that being said where in Colorado would you prefer to have the next CAA GTG ?

Use the poll above and please vote your choice.

70GT6 07-05-2010 11:57 PM

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Doubt many that are not from CO know the differences.
The organizer should pick the location that offers the best set of features. (and I am sure it is which ever location is furthest east) :p
Just a guess, I could be very wrong.

DBLewis 07-06-2010 04:30 PM

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The only area I am vaguely familiar with is Colorado Springs. My only visit there was in the early 80s with my parents Jeep club, otherwise I have just passed through with an overnight here and there. It amazes me that out of all the states I have been through in my life, I haven't really BEEN TO that many places in them. So like stated, I would be happy with any of the locations (with good <drivable> roads).

-Dave

Wedge 07-06-2010 05:02 PM

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I'm not familiar with any of those locations so I'll defer to those that do. :cool:
On a side note, I can handle 5000 ft without much difficulty, not sure how I'd do at 14K. Can our cars breathe ok that high?

Franc Rauscher 07-06-2010 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Wedge
I'm not familiar with any of those locations so I'll defer to those that do. :cool:
On a side note, I can handle 5000 ft without much difficulty, not sure how I'd do at 14K. Can our cars breathe ok that high?

Yours can. It is supercharged.

The NA's will wheeze a bit at that altitude.
As will most of us older duffers.


The good news is that if your car dies at 14K feet, at least gravity still works and the old guys won't have to walk down the mountain.:rolleyes:


roadster with a stick

itsky 07-06-2010 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Wedge
I'm not familiar with any of those locations so I'll defer to those that do. :cool:
On a side note, I can handle 5000 ft without much difficulty, not sure how I'd do at 14K. Can our cars breathe ok that high?

Of course they can breath that high, but with greater difficulty (even SRT6's will notice). :)

Valk 07-06-2010 07:06 PM

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Back in 1987 I took my 1978 Mercury Cougar to the top of Mount Evans (14200 feet) and it topped out at 45mph up near the top.
Although back then we still had carburetors and no electronics to monitor and regulate fuel/air mixtures etc.

I suspect our Crossfires won't be affected very much

IBLUBYU 07-06-2010 07:41 PM

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The year is 1973, I had a 1971 Mercury station wagon. Took the wife, and kids thru the Smokey Mountains. Not 14000 ft, but still had a radiator hose burst. Luckily had a roll of electrical tape, and was able to limp down and get it fixed. Oh... worry ...worry..worry... NAH! ain't gonna let it bother me. I'll just bring a roll of Duct Tape ....fixes anything ... LOL

Deborah Walker 07-16-2010 01:35 PM

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So have we decided on a date yet??? Round about???

Sandgrounder 07-16-2010 10:38 PM

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I will be in the Denver area for a dry run in 2011 and in the same area for the real thing in 2012,:D and if the real thing in 2011 I will be there. Then I will go to the next one in N.D., S.C.,CAL, FL, or Labrador/Newfoundland, gee its only just down the road.
"19 days in a Roadster "

FTroopChief 07-17-2010 08:18 AM

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Hi itsky, how goes the planning? I am not familiar with Denver and it's been many years since my last visit, but I remember two onts if interest well. The Denver Mint Tour The United States Mint and Forney's transportation (Auto museum) were nice attractions. Parking in any large city downtown is always a problem though


What you think?

John P
FTroopChief

itsky 07-19-2010 12:58 AM

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Hi everyone. Sorry that I have not been that active here lately, but I have been out of town on business and have not had time be on the forum that much here lately. It looks like most folks are voting for "Front Range" activities. There is so much here to visit and it will be hard to pick one "base city". Perhaps the solution will be to have two base cities, one city for a few days and the another for another few days. This will give everyone a small taste of what Colorado has to offer.

Thirteendog 07-19-2010 10:33 AM

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I will make it to this one. I voted for Blackhawk only because you mentioned it was paved to the top. Pikes Peak sounds exciting but I'm not sure I want to take the Crossfire off onto gravel roads.

Rapps 07-19-2010 01:12 PM

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We would like to attend dependent on all other things, but one thing....our car doesn't go off paved roads.
No gravel, sand or what ever for a GTG event pleaseeeeeee

Valk 07-19-2010 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Rapp's
We would like to attend dependent on all other things, but one thing....our car doesn't go off paved roads.
No gravel, sand or what ever for a GTG event pleaseeeeeee

When I was at Pikes Peak a couple years ago it was a fairly smooth unpaved sandy surface and not harmful to drive on.
The view from the top is well worth it and the car will be fine ;)

Ann, Ya can always strap a bike on the back and pedal to the top...LOL ;)

TOPLESS 07-19-2010 02:28 PM

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Well, I have lived in C/Springs, Denver and Brecken Ridge CO. Have been in Grand Junction many many times.... Can you Guy's tell me if they ever got done with all the hwy construction in C/Springs? To the South you can take hwy 115 to canon city then west to hwy 67 (the views are great) and then you end up in cripple creek. from there east to C/S or north to woodland park, then back to C/S, there are so many options in C/S.

Black hawk is fine but you have lots of crazy drivers going to the Casino's at night and One way in and One way out (you may sit in traffic) getting in and out.

In Grand Junction to the west you have Arches NP and at least 2-3 options to get there, 1) hwy 128 Very good two lane twisty roads 2) long way hwy 141 and the hwy 191 is a 4 lane hwy. to the east is Grand Mesa N. Forest hwy 65 east of G.J is a great twisty road to be on.

I hope this helps a little .........

H82BL8 07-19-2010 02:41 PM

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I would take any, but I'm kind of partial to Western Slope. I lived in Montrose for over 6 years, and it's the real Colorado experience. A bit harder to get to but well worth the drive.

• San Juan Mountain range — some of the most beautiful rugged mountains you will ever see. All the Coors mountain shots are filmed here.

San Juan Mountains - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

• You have 10,000" flat-top mountains, you can drive on with the Grand Mesa in Grand Junction. It has great fishing and tons of lakes. The Colorado National Monument is also right there.

Touring Colorado - The Grand Mesa National Scenic and Historic Byway

• Some of the best wineries and fruit in state at Palisade.

Palisade Chamber of Commerce - Welcome

• Narrow gage STEAM engine trips in Durango.

Family Discount on Selected Days! | Durango & Silverton Narrow Gauge Railroad Train

• Beautiful box canyon in Ouray CO (called little Switzerland) with a natural hot springs pool.

Ouray Colorado :: Home

• Million Dollar Highway - this is perhaps the most beautiful and horrifying adventures you can experienced in a car. If you are attracted to stunning scenery with sheer cliffs and NO GUARD RAILS, this is the road for you!

• Telluride - some of the coolest skiing, golf and concerts in all of Colorado. Very pretty but a bit pricey $$$, Oprah and Cruise both have homes here.

Telluride Ski Resort | Mountain Ski & Summer Resort Events & Activities

Plus the bonus of driving 5-6 hours (ALL mountain driving) just to get there from Denver or Colorado Springs.

TOPLESS 07-19-2010 02:51 PM

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As far as HP and other things that some of you are concerned about with Fuel injection, the higher ALT vs lower - the higher will give you better fuel MPG and I found that in a turbo / S/C vehicle I had more HP. at higher, More air less fuel (better MPG). with many Vehicles having anti knock systems you don't have to advance your timing to get more HP. Have had Turbo's, S/C and regular fuel injection vehicles in H/A cities and states and never had a problem. Now if you had a 1971 VW Super beetle with regular Distributor your screwed, been there, done that and was not a happy camper!!!!!

Erzer 07-19-2010 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by TOPLESS
Well, I have lived in C/Springs, Denver and Brecken Ridge CO. Have been in Grand Junction many many times.... Can you Guy's tell me if they ever got done with all the hwy construction in C/Springs? To the South you can take hwy 115 to canon city then west to hwy 67 (the views are great) and then you end up in cripple creek. from there east to C/S or north to woodland park, then back to C/S, there are so many options in C/S.

Black hawk is fine but you have lots of crazy drivers going to the Casino's at night and One way in and One way out (you may sit in traffic) getting in and out.

In Grand Junction to the west you have Arches NP and at least 2-3 options to get there, 1) hwy 128 Very good two lane twisty roads 2) long way hwy 141 and the hwy 191 is a 4 lane hwy. to the east is Grand Mesa N. Forest hwy 65 east of G.J is a great twisty road to be on.

I hope this helps a little .........

Surely you jest...done with all the construction in the Springs? All I know is the last time I was there, having been gone only about a year, it had changed quite a bit.

If we do a two base camp as itsky is suggesting, I would say vote for the Springs area to be the second.

H82BL8 07-19-2010 05:14 PM

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We have NO ROAD CONSTRUCTION in the Springs. Every other turn is a a chicane or a sweeper. We all draft from light to light, and every intersection is synchronized with the next to run flat out. There are no speed limits and premium is only $1.50 a gallon! ;)

Sandgrounder 07-19-2010 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by H82BL8
We have NO ROAD CONSTRUCTION in the Springs. Every other turn is a a chicane or a sweeper. We all draft from light to light, and every intersection is synchronized with the next to run flat out. There are no speed limits and premium is only $1.50 a gallon! ;)

Lite premium draft is $1:50 a gallon,:D, heading South in the morning!

H82BL8 07-19-2010 07:51 PM

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Now your talk'in!

Erzer 07-19-2010 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by H82BL8
We have NO ROAD CONSTRUCTION in the Springs. Every other turn is a a chicane or a sweeper. We all draft from light to light, and every intersection is synchronized with the next to run flat out. There are no speed limits and premium is only $1.50 a gallon! ;)

I'm sure people don't anticipate lights changing anymore either or Academy Blvd and Galley is no longer on one of the most dangerous intersections list anymore....:p;)

Do you think Dragon Man (if still around) will give us a tour and let us shoot his M60 if Cheyenne Mountain won't do a tour?

oledoc2u 07-19-2010 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Erzer
I'm sure people don't anticipate lights changing anymore either or Academy Blvd and Galley is no longer on one of the most dangerous intersections list anymore....:p;)

Do you think Dragon Man (if still around) will give us a tour and let us shoot his M60 if Cheyenne Mountain won't do a tour?


M60.......I'm in....lol

Erzer 07-20-2010 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by oledoc2u
M60.......I'm in....lol

Just so you know I'm not joking about this guy....Dragon Man's

H82BL8 07-20-2010 10:43 AM

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He's still around. I remember seeing something on the news a couple weeks ago. A 20 year old soldier had the misfortune of getting hit by lightning at Dragon Man's outdoor Paintball Park.

ichon 07-20-2010 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Deborah Walker
So have we decided on a date yet??? Round about???


was this question answered?

itsky 07-20-2010 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ichon
was this question answered?

Date will be decided soon... Stay tuned.

itsky 07-22-2010 02:38 PM

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It does appear that we can host the event in Western Colorado (should be plenty of ski towns that can hold us all) which will keep us away from the "big city" attractions and provide a lot twisty roads and beautiful scenery and no interstate highways :).

IBLUBYU 07-22-2010 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by itsky
It does appear that we can host the event in Western Colorado (should be plenty of ski towns that can hold us all) which will keep us away from the "big city" attractions and provide a lot twisty roads and beautiful scenery and no interstate highways :).

Sounds Good ....:D

itsky 07-26-2010 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ichon
was this question answered?

2011 for sure now. The event will be some time in July...

joejet 07-26-2010 04:32 PM

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Thats great news Evan. I'm glad you decided on 2011.
Joejet OKC

Valk 07-26-2010 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by itsky
2011 for sure now. The event will be some time in July...

I have to choose between Carlisle July 8-10 or Colorado :confused:

itsky 07-26-2010 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by VALKRYDERGUY
I have to choose between Carlisle July 8-10 or Colorado :confused:

Good to know about the dates for Carlisle. If you can swing later July, you can have the best of both! We were looking at August as well, but school will start up early in August not allowing some of our members to attend (and my kids start school in early August as well).

Look for an official announcement on the date here soon as we pick the venue and places to stay.

Valk 07-26-2010 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by itsky
Good to know about the dates for Carlisle. If you can swing later July, you can have the best of both! We were looking at August as well, but school will start up early in August not allowing some of our members to attend (and my kids start school in early August as well).

Look for an official announcement on the date here soon as we pick the venue and places to stay.

Both in the same month ......to much on the plate for that.
It's just a conflict for me though so continue on with the planning.
I'll just have to make a choice.

IBLUBYU 07-26-2010 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by VALKRYDERGUY
Both in the same month ......to much on the plate for that.
It's just a conflict for me though so continue on with the planning.
I'll just have to make a choice.

Ya .... I had that decision this year with CAA and Carlisle ...... pretty close together ..... So, I went to both, and not doing Woodward or the Dragon this year. Next year, I plan to do Colorado CAA and either Woodward or the Dragon, and just skip Carlisle. I can't do it all, and be in 2 places at once. There's just a lot to chose from ....Thankfully ......

itsky 07-26-2010 10:11 PM

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For you folks on Facebook, check out our event page:

http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Crossfires-Across-America-Rocky-Mountain-Edition/135093129860641?ref=ts


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