I just read the Road and Track “Best All-Around Sports Car” comparison test. The Crossfire was not even considered. The article made for some interesting reading and the price of each vehicle was a key factor in the final score.

For what it's worth here is a link to the article:

http://www.roadandtrack.com/article.asp?section_id=31&article_id=1949&page_num ber=1

The results were:

1. Chevrolet Corvette Coupe

2. Porsche Boxster S

3. Porsche Carrera S Coupe

4. Lotus Elise

5. Honda S2000

6. Dodge Viper SRT-10

7. BMW Z4 3.0i

8. Nissan 350Z Anniversary Edition

9. Mercedes Benz SLK350

This just goes to show no one is taking our Crossfire serious, oh well… I’m happy with mine.

 

they probably just go by how big the engine is and who would win in a race. People turn around and stop just to get a second look at our car, the only car on that list that gets that kind of attention is the viper. Corvettes and Z's are found everywhere. I think BMW and benzs are overrated and overpriced. And Porsches just don't look very good. They say "all-around", but they BS, its all about the engine and power to them.

 

err, they are all-round sports cars.

good performance, all look beautiful, and all have latest car tech.

Crossfire has bad performance, looks good thou, and not the latest tech.

simple.

 

I'm not sure about your community but I have only seen one Elise driving around. I drive a lot around Indianapolis (a place known for cars) and still don't see very many. My family's old business actually had one for a shop car but that doesn't really count. As far as Vipers, I see at least one a week during the warmer months. Vettes, Zs, S2Ks, BMWs, and Benzs are everywhere. I see at least one C6 everyday and it just came out! Oh, and I think Porsches look very good and I would trade my Xfire for a 911 anyday (I just couldn't afford to drive or insure it!).

I don't care if a stupid car mag didn't put the Xfire in their comparison. Nobody needs to tell me how much I enjoy my car or what I would rather drive. I could probably pick 5 or 6 cars off that list I would rather have than the Xfire. I bought my Xfire because I fell in love with the looks and the feel. If I was shooting for speed I would have kept my SRT-4 (which would have ran with a handful of those cars with very few mods).

Owning a crossfire is an experience that cannot be described in words, I know you some of you guys have the same feeling...

 

Oh, one thing I was surprised about was how well the SLK performed. I didn't know that it was that well rounded (power and handling). I can't figure out why it was in last place when it whipped the crap out of the Z and BMW in most comparisons. This is a classic case of biased editors...

 

I would take any of those cars over my crossfire. All of them are worth more lol.

So you still got the srt-4? Are you going to sell any of the mods?

 

The term "bad perf" is an opinion IMO and FWIW, I feel the perf of the car is fine for what it is. I guess its just too bad they don't have a manual that can handle the 310 ft/lbs of torque the SRT-6 puts out or I could be driving one of those instead of my fun to drive Crossfire Limited.

 

I'll have to disagree with your statement that "bad performance" is an opinion. When you take a group of cars, run them through the same tests you get facts and figures... not an opinion.

Would I like to have something on that list, yes I would. But unless I win the lottery, for my tastes and pocket book I think the Crossfire is a very good car. I'm proud to own one.

 

the Crossfire is on the fence of bad/good performance.

for a car with that it has, it does itself a disservice with such sloppy performance.

 

The SRT-4 is now my little brothers car. I am going to buy it from my parents after I graduate (they will probably just give it to me). As far as mods, I expect the list to grow. My younger brother has a good job ($9 an hour and he is in HS). The only thing he has to do is pay my parents $200 a month for the car, the rest will probably go into mods. He is already talking to somebody about buying the Borla exhaust and has placed an order for Stage 2. I give it 3 months till the thing hits 12s. He works at a tire store and already has a stack of DRs and great street tires sitting in the garage. I'm sure he is thinking about light weight wheels too. The best part is he will trade me for the Xfire any day of the week so if I want to go fast I always have that option...

Back on topic. The only car off that list I wouldn't want is the 350Z. I have never liked them and nobody can convince me different. The S2K isn't that appealing to me either...

 

I enjoy driving my Crossfire with my minor mods it feels 0-60 in low 6s, stops 60-0 in almost 100 ft.and corners better than most. If DC really was trying to compete with the list above they could have put the 350 V6 in it and a 7 speed auto. If they don't I'm getting a SRT6 I just hope they put Red or Alabaster on them next year. I'm not buying a 80k porsche. my very close 2nd choice a used XKR.

 

Just to keep things in perspective, every one of those cars, except the 350z and the S2000 is significantly more expensive (MSRP) than the Crossfire.

 

That is exactly why I have a crossfire and not a 911 or Viper...

 

What tech are you talking about? The corvette? The first incarnation of that engine came around in 1955. Boxster S? glorified VW. 911? Good car but old school and expensive. Lotus Elise? Kit car with a been around for a while Toyota engine. (Sorry Kusheen, I do like 'em) Honda S2000? Hasn't changed much since it's intro. Viper? ditto. BMW Z4? what's new except the ugly as* body? Nissan 350z? Circa 1984 engine. You keep saying that the Crossfire is old left over tech. Not compared to most of the ones on that list. Are you talking about Wiz-bang Gizmos or what?

 

I believe the Crossfire was created to compete with just the Audi TT alone that's why in Europe they brand it as the " TTbeater "

Other than that DC will have to reduce the wheel size, use an aluminum rear wing, lighter doors and remove the engine cover to make the car lighter and faster and get a 0-60 at 5 sec. just like the Lotus 190HP Elise. However, crash test will be negative but who really cares about crash test anyway when your car is faster than the rest?

 

No way because they sent most to the US market. And they beat most even Boxsters.

 

This has got to be one of the funniest things i have read on here lately.

Taking off, I will be really generous, 200lbs, with smaller rolling stock will not knock of a second and a half 0-60. LOL Even doing that I don't think a 5.99 is possible, well maybe with a 30 degree decline and a 50 mph tailwind. Even having an exhaust aka fancy muffler, upsolute, and the almighty kandn's with that weight reduction you would get nowhere near 5 flat. For example, look at the srt-6 it barely does it under 5 second's. And that car has about a 125 whp more than our cars do. Just not possible.

That would be like me saying knock my wheels down to 16's removed the air intake assembly for something lighter, lighten my doors, LOL, and carbon fiber trunk and hood, and bam! My srt-4 went to a ferreri killer to a 0-60 at 3.8 seconds.

Every 100 lbs of dead weight is about a tenth of a second.

 

So, are you saying if we got rid of you that this forum would run about .15-.18 seconds faster?

 

Basic principle of speed is how much drag or weight is affecting it. Mercedes is more concern on the safety of the car than speed and safety means more materials are being added to the car. The luxury we enjoyed also adds up to it's weight making our crossfires much more heavier and these features are not found in the SRT-4 because it's just a Dodge.

If you do the opposite like putting all what our crossfires have to the SRT-4...I think it'll be running slower too.

 

I drove a Dealer modded 18" wheels and tires on a 05' GT mustang it felt like it was pulling maybe 7.5, 0-60. Most of the weight on our rear wheels & tire I think close to 50 lbs each. And not having 50+ hp more is the main reason our cars our slow 0-60 but after we're rolling unless you can't shift that crappy MB 6 speed is going to make you feel like your standing still. That's why I got the autostick just floor it and hold on! The ECU chip also helps.