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Old May 3, 2004 | 12:07 AM
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Anyone have any new news on the Crossfire's supercharger that might be covered under the DC warranty?! I'm really interesting in getting this when it does come out, but my dealer has no club about this....

I know so of you work for DC or at least know a lot more about this then me! are there any performance mods that will be coming out for our car covered under the warranties as long as they are performed by their DC techs?!

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Old May 3, 2004 | 01:49 AM
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i dont know anything about it, but why isnt mopar doing anything for this platform?
 
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Old May 3, 2004 | 08:06 AM
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I'm interested too. I've looked at Renntech and Kleemann but both would be quite a ways from Missouri. And if I have any problems I'd have to make the trip again or worse have it hauled there.

The Kleemann is the most interesting to me so far. A MOPAR installation by the dealer would be great!
 
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Old May 3, 2004 | 10:51 AM
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Here is the info that I received from Kleemann:

Thank you for contacting KLEEMANN USA! I have attached a full price
list for your Chrysler Crossfire in Microsoft Word format. Our kompressor
system for your Crossfire is priced at $9,500.00 plus installation.
Installation typically runs in the $1300.0 range, depending on which
authorized dealer you choose. You can find a complete list of dealers on
our website at www.kleemannusa.com. Click on the contacts link, then USA.
The KLEEMANN kompressor will increase HP to 330 and torque to 325 lb/ft. We can further enhance output with stage 2 ($10,500.00) which also includes an ECU upgrade good for a total of 350 HP and 345 lb/ft. of torque. KLEEMANN offers a one-year, unlimited mileage warranty on all KLEEMANN components. Installation can take place at any one of our authorized KLEEMANN dealers.
Please review the attached information and let me know if you have any additional questions or concerns. Thank you again for contacting KLEEMANN USA!

Kind Regards,

Cory Umemoto
Technical Manager

KLEEMANN USA, Inc.
2845 Ore Mill Road
Suite 7
Colorado Springs, CO. 80904
Tel: 719.473.6441
Fax: 719.578.0345
www.kleemannusa.com
 
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Old May 3, 2004 | 12:19 PM
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Wheew! thanks for that info AirData!! It's a much cheaper upgrade then Renntech who wants a lot more for their stuff!

But I was hoping for an upgrade from the dealers... would like to keep the warranty since I did pay for the extended one

Does anyone know for 100% ... if I change parts on the engine... will that kill the warranty for the rest of the car? or only for the parts I changed?

I did see this company gives a 1 year warranty! ... too bad its in CO and kinda hard to get it to their shop if something breaks
 
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Old May 3, 2004 | 12:42 PM
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It will only void the warranty on the parts that a change you make has a direct effect on. If you put a supercharger on the dealer can void the warranty on your engine.
 
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Old May 3, 2004 | 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by James Sonne
It will only void the warranty on the parts that a change you make has a direct effect on. If you put a supercharger on the dealer can void the warranty on your engine.
And your whole drive train... Engine, tranny, differential and axles.
 
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Old May 3, 2004 | 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by James Sonne
It will only void the warranty on the parts that a change you make has a direct effect on. If you put a supercharger on the dealer can void the warranty on your engine.
I have no doubt that letting Kleeman (or anyone) do this to your Crossfire would completely void the entire D/C powertrain warranty.

As Boba noted... D/C offering the upgrade (like many other manufacturer's do in their "performance" aftermarket lines) is the only way you're gonna get an upggrade that doesn't totally void your OEM warranty.
 
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Old May 3, 2004 | 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by David Burns
As Boba noted... D/C offering the upgrade (like many other manufacturer's do in their "performance" aftermarket lines) is the only way you're gonna get an upggrade that doesn't totally void your OEM warranty.
thanks dave.. looks like im just gonna have to wait for DC... i just wish they would hurry up
 
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Old May 3, 2004 | 03:03 PM
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I believe it only voids the warranty if you have a problem, though. They would still do routine service and such. But if you buy a supercharger you'd want to do the maintenance anyway. You'd have to change the oil every 3000 miles and with a good expensive synth. You'd probably want to put in some good redline tranny oil, too.
 
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Old May 3, 2004 | 03:38 PM
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I doubt Mopar or anything associated with Chrysler will come out with an upgrade supercharger. The SRT (amg) version has not only a supercharger added, but injectors, ecu, lower compression, better head gasket, forged internals, etc.

If you just slapped on a supercharger, ecu, and fuel, the bottom end would still be weak and at a higher compression, you would have to run less boost. Basically you wouldn't see the HP numbers the SRT does, and it woulnd't last as long either.

Now purchasing the SRT and changing out the pulley, upgrading exhaust, intake, and fuel, adjust the trims, more psi. I don't see why you couldn't squeeze out 400hp

Ok now I remember why I got the coupe. I've already wasted enough money chasing the never ending HP / TQ pipe dream. It is only as good as the day you put it on. Then you start to break ****
 
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Old May 3, 2004 | 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by BobaFettm
Originally Posted by David Burns
As Boba noted... D/C offering the upgrade (like many other manufacturer's do in their "performance" aftermarket lines) is the only way you're gonna get an upggrade that doesn't totally void your OEM warranty.
thanks dave.. looks like im just gonna have to wait for DC... i just wish they would hurry up
Has somebody somewhere said they would? Not that I've seen in any new articles, chrsyler.com, here... maybe I missed it? I've been saying for months I >wish< they would, but wish in one hand and crap in the other and see which is full first... :cry: :cry: :cry:
 
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Old May 3, 2004 | 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by James Sonne
I believe it only voids the warranty if you have a problem, though. They would still do routine service and such. But if you buy a supercharger you'd want to do the maintenance anyway. You'd have to change the oil every 3000 miles and with a good expensive synth. You'd probably want to put in some good redline tranny oil, too.
What are you talking about James? Warranty is ONLY in effect when "you have a problem". I mean, don't you agree you don't need ANY warranty if nothing goes wrong, eh?

And I don't understand what warranty has to do with "routine service and such". We all >pay< for routine service, D/C isn't selling Crossfire's like some mfg's do with free lifetime routine maintenance, are they? Sure, some dealers give a free first oil change, or sell you a maintenance contract, but in the end you're still paying for maintenance service. The only thing it has to do with your warranty is if you FAIL to perform the recommended maintenance and something fails that probably wouldn't have failed if you'd maintained your car per D/C recommendations, D/C >could< not cover the failure under warranty.

Oh, and ALL Crossfire's require a "good expensive synth" motor oil. Supercharged or stock.
 
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Old May 3, 2004 | 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by DFWSBR
I doubt Mopar or anything associated with Chrysler will come out with an upgrade supercharger.
As soon as I heard of the SRT-6, I was sure a factory sponsored bolt-on would never happen.

Originally Posted by DFWSBR
Then you start to break ****
Spoken like a man with experience...
 
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Old May 3, 2004 | 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by David Burns
Spoken like a man with experience...
Lets just say I've been through the "lets make it faster, turn harder, run better than ever before" phase. Taking a 210hp factory eclipse and road racing it on the side.

This picture tells a lot:

http://www.dfwsbr.com/members/adam/turbo/PB260021.jpg

(left to right)
FP Green 3" inlet averages 450whp
big 16g 7cm exhaust housing
t25 (factory turbo)

There wasn't much I hadn't done to this car:

http://www.dfwsbr.com/members/adam/d...3/PC210020.jpg
http://www.dfwsbr.com/members/adam/d...3/PC210015.jpg

There also wasn't much I hadn't broken:

http://www.dfwsbr.com/eclipse/tran_brk01.jpg

Along with becoming a mechanic over night:

http://www.dfwsbr.com/eclipse/b2s/Tr...build%2003.jpg

http://www.dfwsbr.com/eclipse/b2s/Head%2001.jpg

http://www.dfwsbr.com/eclipse/b2s/HKS%2003.jpg

http://www.dfwsbr.com/eclipse/b2s/Exhaust%2003.jpg

http://www.dfwsbr.com/eclipse/brake/b08.jpg


The list and $$$$ goes on.

http://www.dfwsbr.com/eclipse/b2s/back2stock.htm

5 transmissions later, 2 motors, axles, 1500 mile mobil one oil changes, $8 a gallon race fuel, high insurance, etc.....

I took this car back to factory spec, sold all the modifications on the side. Made back 11k, which wasn't even close to what I had into it. Traded in the car and got the Crossfire. So far all I've had to do to it, was fill up with gas, and change oil.

Worth it? Hell yea. Would I do it again? NO! I can't afford it.

I want speed, I buy something fast.

Unless you got $$$$$$$$ burning a hole in your pocket, don't even think about slapping on just a supercharger. Only thing worse would be nitrous, which btw I never used =)
 
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Old May 4, 2004 | 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by DFWSBR
Originally Posted by David Burns
Spoken like a man with experience...
Lets just say I've been through the "lets make it faster, turn harder, run better than ever before" phase. Taking a 210hp factory eclipse and road racing it on the side.

...snip...

Only thing worse would be nitrous, which btw I never used =)
Looks like lotsa fun!:evil: And that was my next question :roll: :wink: :roll:
 
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Old Jul 30, 2004 | 11:49 PM
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You can easily lower engine compression by increasing the head gasket size. A good machine shop or some research could give you the specs. Maybe 2 head gaskets would do the trick.
 
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Old Aug 3, 2004 | 05:19 PM
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DFWSBR
I am with him, I had a 10 TSI, all I ever got done was fixing and repairing.
trade the coupe in, put your 10 grand into it and go find anoth 5 and get the srt..............
 
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Old Aug 3, 2004 | 06:55 PM
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DC says they make about 2,000 srt's i don't think they'll be flying out the door at sticker,maybe $ 5k off!I bought a NSX under list in 91,they only shipped 2000 units to USA.Porsche sales are down and those buyers are constant.Cost is not the only factor,aLOYAL buyer is always going to pay for what they want!This is a possible one time car.And that will not help!New Corvette,New Porsche,New Mustang,300 HEMI cpe next year!
 
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