Front License Plate Requirement "FIX" (California)
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Front License Plate Requirement "FIX" (California)
A few years ago when I bought my Lotus Esprit, I was perplexed about the positioning and placement of the mandatory front license plate, so since I was in the entertainment industry and whenever we shot scenes on the LA freeways we were required to have CHP and LAPD escorts. I had made friends with a few of the CHP's and asked them about the issue of front license plates and they assured me that unless the cops have a "Hard-on" for you, they won't bother you, but if they just want a reason to pull you over and use the no front license plate issue as an excuse, they will...
After being pulled over 3 times in my Lotus for that very issue, I devised this scheme and aquired the California DMV vehicle code pertaining to front plates. (see attached)
When I first took delivery of my X-Fire I did exactly the same thing as with the Lotus, cut it down to ONLY the letters of the plate and attached it to the front of the car. (see pictures in album...
Well, I was pulled over in my x-fire 3 weeks ago for having the plate "Shaved" and went to court to contest... The court decided in my favor, stating the law only requires the numbers on the front plate be visible based on the vehicle code attached...
http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d03/vc5201.htm
Pictures are in my album
After being pulled over 3 times in my Lotus for that very issue, I devised this scheme and aquired the California DMV vehicle code pertaining to front plates. (see attached)
When I first took delivery of my X-Fire I did exactly the same thing as with the Lotus, cut it down to ONLY the letters of the plate and attached it to the front of the car. (see pictures in album...
Well, I was pulled over in my x-fire 3 weeks ago for having the plate "Shaved" and went to court to contest... The court decided in my favor, stating the law only requires the numbers on the front plate be visible based on the vehicle code attached...
http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d03/vc5201.htm
Pictures are in my album
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Unfortunantly that work work for us in Texas. In texas the law is that you have to see the state name on the plate.
Senate Bill 439, Section 502.409 of the Transportation Code states that any bracket or frame such as dealership, sports team and/or college alumni that covers any portion of the word Texas or any numbers of the plate can now fine the driver $200.
Secondly in texas there is now a second law which states that you cannot put anthing on or around it that may distract from the numbers or distort it (clear covers, neon, etc)
There are somethings in the works that keep going up to the state to remove this stupid law... along with it goes 4.5 million in savings to the state to only issue one plate rather then two...
-marc
Senate Bill 439, Section 502.409 of the Transportation Code states that any bracket or frame such as dealership, sports team and/or college alumni that covers any portion of the word Texas or any numbers of the plate can now fine the driver $200.
Secondly in texas there is now a second law which states that you cannot put anthing on or around it that may distract from the numbers or distort it (clear covers, neon, etc)
relating to an offense involving a motor vehicle with an altered or
obscured license plate.
BE IT ENACTED BY THE LEGISLATURE OF THE STATE OF TEXAS:
SECTION 1. The heading to Section 502.409, Transportation
Code, is amended to read as follows:
Sec. 502.409. WRONG, FICTITIOUS, ALTERED, OR OBSCURED
[UNCLEAN] LICENSE PLATE.
SECTION 2. Subsection (a), Section 502.409, Transportation
Code, is amended to read as follows:
(a) A person commits an offense if the person attaches to or
displays on a motor vehicle a number plate or registration insignia
that:
(1) is assigned to a different motor vehicle;
(2) is assigned to the vehicle under any other motor
vehicle law other than by the department;
(3) is assigned for a registration period other than
the registration period in effect;
(4) is fictitious;
(5) has letters, numbers, or other identification
marks that because of blurring or reflective matter are not plainly
visible at all times during daylight;
(6) has an attached illuminated device or [is a]
sticker, decal, emblem, or other insignia that is not authorized by
law and that interferes with the readability of the letters or
numbers on the plate or the name of the state in which the vehicle is
registered; or
(7) has a coating, covering, or protective material
that:
(A) distorts angular visibility or
detectability; or
(B) alters or obscures the letters or numbers on
the plate, the color of the plate, or another original design
feature of the plate.
SECTION 3. (a) The change in law made by this Act applies
only to an offense committed on or after the effective date of this
Act. For the purposes of this section, an offense is committed
before the effective date of this Act if any element of the offense
occurs before that date.
(b) An offense committed before the effective date of this
Act is governed by the law in effect when the offense was committed,
and the former law is continued in effect for that purpose.
SECTION 4. This Act takes effect September 1, 2003.
obscured license plate.
BE IT ENACTED BY THE LEGISLATURE OF THE STATE OF TEXAS:
SECTION 1. The heading to Section 502.409, Transportation
Code, is amended to read as follows:
Sec. 502.409. WRONG, FICTITIOUS, ALTERED, OR OBSCURED
[UNCLEAN] LICENSE PLATE.
SECTION 2. Subsection (a), Section 502.409, Transportation
Code, is amended to read as follows:
(a) A person commits an offense if the person attaches to or
displays on a motor vehicle a number plate or registration insignia
that:
(1) is assigned to a different motor vehicle;
(2) is assigned to the vehicle under any other motor
vehicle law other than by the department;
(3) is assigned for a registration period other than
the registration period in effect;
(4) is fictitious;
(5) has letters, numbers, or other identification
marks that because of blurring or reflective matter are not plainly
visible at all times during daylight;
(6) has an attached illuminated device or [is a]
sticker, decal, emblem, or other insignia that is not authorized by
law and that interferes with the readability of the letters or
numbers on the plate or the name of the state in which the vehicle is
registered; or
(7) has a coating, covering, or protective material
that:
(A) distorts angular visibility or
detectability; or
(B) alters or obscures the letters or numbers on
the plate, the color of the plate, or another original design
feature of the plate.
SECTION 3. (a) The change in law made by this Act applies
only to an offense committed on or after the effective date of this
Act. For the purposes of this section, an offense is committed
before the effective date of this Act if any element of the offense
occurs before that date.
(b) An offense committed before the effective date of this
Act is governed by the law in effect when the offense was committed,
and the former law is continued in effect for that purpose.
SECTION 4. This Act takes effect September 1, 2003.
-marc
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Damn, they're tuff on you guys... My girlfriend is from TX, living here in LA with me and she had the same comment when I was cutting mine down a few months ago... She said "This would never work back home"... Ah well she's been living in CA for 3.5 years and still has her TX plates... LOL
Oh, and don't you guys have to put those darn stickers on your windshields too ????? YIKES
Oh, and don't you guys have to put those darn stickers on your windshields too ????? YIKES
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you don't have to put any stickers on your windows???
we have to put the inspection sticker and the car tags there. a few years back we pulled the experation tags off the plates to prevent people from peeling them off and moved them to the windshield.
-marc
we have to put the inspection sticker and the car tags there. a few years back we pulled the experation tags off the plates to prevent people from peeling them off and moved them to the windshield.
-marc
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From: Texas
Originally Posted by HDDP
That's what I meant... Those stickers she has on her windshield... I guess they are registration and inspection...
Ive always said those traffic cameras aimed at your front plate is wrongful means because those out of state yahoo's can blow thru the lights being they have no front plate. Texas needs to get real and dump the front plate.
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