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Old Sep 17, 2015 | 02:16 PM
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Long old thread...quite informative...So, did I get this straight? For the 05 Xfires, they used one of 2 different TPMSensors? If this is so, would it be true that you wouldn't know which one you had until you break down the tire? I just got quoted 100 bucks a tire including rebalancing and mounting and programming the sensor each. Having 2 - '05's this is looking like an $800.00 investment that was unseen, unpredicted.
 
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Old Sep 17, 2015 | 09:41 PM
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Thanks to all. I'll have them all installed and reprogrammed at once. I am in NE corner of Alabama so Huntsville or Chattanooga dealer should be able to help.
 
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Old Sep 19, 2015 | 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Fla_Xfire_SRT
Long old thread...quite informative...So, did I get this straight? For the 05 Xfires, they used one of 2 different TPMSensors? If this is so, would it be true that you wouldn't know which one you had until you break down the tire? I just got quoted 100 bucks a tire including rebalancing and mounting and programming the sensor each. Having 2 - '05's this is looking like an $800.00 investment that was unseen, unpredicted.
I took my car to a tire dealer who could trigger the sensors to see the frequency they were on. For FREE. Once I knew what the car had I made sure TireRack had the Schrader 20028's waiting for me.

See this link before you believe or pay ANY tire shop. https://www.crossfireforum.org/forum...01-basics.html

If they cannot trigger a sensor to see what frequency it's on I would not use that shop.

Does the shop really mean program the sensor or do the mean train the car's computer? Two VERY different procedures.
 

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Old Sep 19, 2015 | 06:25 PM
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2. They can be programmed after installation, but finding any place, including dealers, that can do it will be very difficult.

We don't yet have a report of programable sensors being successfully fitted to the Crossfire. Programable sensors do not require the cars computer to be trained.

Standard replacement sensors like the known to work Schrader 20028's are not programable but do require the cars computer to relearn the new sensors. This will take the DRBIII tool.
 
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Old Dec 2, 2015 | 12:11 AM
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Has any of these been updated? My lite wont go out. Meter says tpms working fine.
I live in San Antonio and the temp changes a lot here.
 
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Old Dec 2, 2015 | 02:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Flamenco2005
Has any of these been updated? My lite wont go out. Meter says tpms working fine.
I live in San Antonio and the temp changes a lot here.
Have you got the correct PSI in the tires, 32 front & 33 rear?
 
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Old Dec 2, 2015 | 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Flamenco2005
Has any of these been updated? My lite wont go out. Meter says tpms working fine.
I live in San Antonio and the temp changes a lot here.
The issue is the signal not being sent by the sensor or the signal not being received at the TPMS receiver.
 
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Old Dec 2, 2015 | 11:59 PM
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Had but uped tbe presure to 35 and 34 after
this problem. Also had 34 in both still on. Your
saying 33 and 32. If that doesnt do it replace them?
 
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Old Dec 3, 2015 | 02:33 AM
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Interesting: Don?t confuse TPMS relearn with sensor programming. - VDO Redi-Sensor
 
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Old Dec 3, 2015 | 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Flamenco2005
Had but uped tbe presure to 35 and 34 after
this problem. Also had 34 in both still on. Your
saying 33 and 32. If that doesnt do it replace them?
The sensor(s) are not going to magically work with a change of a few psi. The light would come on if a tire hit somewhere near 8 psi below the 32 psi figure, or the internal battery failed.

It only takes one sensor to malfunction to get the dash light to come on. If it is because of an internal battery failure in one sensor and they are original sensors you might as well change them all or this will happen three more times.
 
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Old Feb 25, 2016 | 04:24 PM
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2.25.16
TPMS sensors; still VERY confused, 2005 Crossfire Limited Coupe – Please help!

Hello. I'm a newbie to the Crossfire forum and this is my first post/question (after reading lots of great posts). I have a 2005 Crossfire Limited Coupe that's about to get new TPMS sensors (...apparently the '05 Limited's/SRT-6's are a particular pain in the rear!). Let me begin by saying: (a.) by no means am I an auto mechanic, (b.) I’m auto dealership adverse, (c.) my sensors will be replaced along with new tires […tires perhaps Michelin, perhaps purchased from Costco..?], and (d.) I assume it’s best for me to purchase replacement TPMS sensors online [?].

So, here’s what “I think I understand that I need”:
1. Four Schrader TPMS sensors; either #20028 or #20066, since either are possible from my ’05 Limited (these replace OEM parts #5096808AA or #5142340AA respectively @ $65/ea. [@ sub ttl. $260]);
2. The original sensors must be checked before determining which of the above part numbers I need to purchase (i.e., that a VIN will not suffice for determining proper sensors for this year model);
3. I also will need four Schrader TPMS Service Kits #20013 that include the rubber seal for the rim, valve, nut and cap for each sensor (@ $6/ea., @ sub ttl. $24; therefore, @ parts ttl. $260 sensors + $24 parts kits = $284)
4. That ONLY a Chrysler dealer can properly install these TPMS parts such that the new sensors are “programmed properly” and the car is “trained properly” to recognize their ID’s (a.k.a., so that the damn car works properly).

Here are my questions:
A. Are Schrader sensors still the best option (as of 2.25.16)? What about the “self-programming” Denso sensors I see at CarID.com?
B. Assuming Schrader sensors are the best option, how does one “check” the original sensors to determine which replacement part number is needed? (I presume the tires have to be off, OEM part numbers are communicated to me, and then I order the Schrader parts. This seems like a very cumbersome, two-step tire removal/re-installation process [?].)
C. Given only a Chrysler dealership can perform this process: (a.) will they actually comply with [i.] all the steps presumably involved in #B, [ii.] install customer-purchased sensors and tires, (b.) does anyone have any idea of what a dealership might charge for this?
*D. Should the TPMS installation process and the new tires installation process be treated separately?
E. Can anyone recommend a preferred provider of these TPMS sensors (online or otherwise)?
F. Can anyone help me to simplify this process for best results at the best price?

Any advice is greatly appreciated! Thank you in advance!
-Michael
 
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Old Feb 25, 2016 | 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by MikeFire
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TPMS sensors; still VERY confused, 2005 Crossfire Limited Coupe – Please help!

Hello. I'm a newbie to the Crossfire forum and this is my first post/question (after reading lots of great posts). I have a 2005 Crossfire Limited Coupe that's about to get new TPMS sensors (...apparently the '05 Limited's/SRT-6's are a particular pain in the rear!). Let me begin by saying: (a.) by no means am I an auto mechanic, (b.) I’m auto dealership adverse, (c.) my sensors will be replaced along with new tires […tires perhaps Michelin, perhaps purchased from Costco..?], and (d.) I assume it’s best for me to purchase replacement TPMS sensors online [?].

So, here’s what “I think I understand that I need”:
1. Four Schrader TPMS sensors; either #20028 or #20066, since either are possible from my ’05 Limited (these replace OEM parts #5096808AA or #5142340AA respectively @ $65/ea. [@ sub ttl. $260]);
2. The original sensors must be checked before determining which of the above part numbers I need to purchase (i.e., that a VIN will not suffice for determining proper sensors for this year model);
3. I also will need four Schrader TPMS Service Kits #20013 that include the rubber seal for the rim, valve, nut and cap for each sensor (@ $6/ea., @ sub ttl. $24; therefore, @ parts ttl. $260 sensors + $24 parts kits = $284)
4. That ONLY a Chrysler dealer can properly install these TPMS parts such that the new sensors are “programmed properly” and the car is “trained properly” to recognize their ID’s (a.k.a., so that the damn car works properly).

Here are my questions:
A. Are Schrader sensors still the best option (as of 2.25.16)? What about the “self-programming” Denso sensors I see at CarID.com?
B. Assuming Schrader sensors are the best option, how does one “check” the original sensors to determine which replacement part number is needed? (I presume the tires have to be off, OEM part numbers are communicated to me, and then I order the Schrader parts. This seems like a very cumbersome, two-step tire removal/re-installation process [?].)
C. Given only a Chrysler dealership can perform this process: (a.) will they actually comply with [i.] all the steps presumably involved in #B, [ii.] install customer-purchased sensors and tires, (b.) does anyone have any idea of what a dealership might charge for this?
*D. Should the TPMS installation process and the new tires installation process be treated separately?
E. Can anyone recommend a preferred provider of these TPMS sensors (online or otherwise)?
F. Can anyone help me to simplify this process for best results at the best price?

Any advice is greatly appreciated! Thank you in advance!
-Michael
I had Tire Rack put 4 Schraders on when they put the new tires on. $32 each sensor. No "service kits" needed. I talked direct to Schrader tech support and Tire Rack before my order was placed to make sure things were in stock.

Left Tire Rack went to my Dealer who charges 1/2 hour labor to train the cars computer to the new sensors with the DRBIII. All is fine.

If you try the Denso's and they work you would be the first report of those type working. If they don't work you have to rip the tires off the rims to put the known to work Schraders on. Don't even let the tire shop tell you they can reset the light, DRBII is the only way. Unconfirmed, to me anyway, is the Snap-on tool can do a Crossfire TPMS learn.
 

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Old Feb 25, 2016 | 06:45 PM
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The service kit is just that, a kit that is required if the original one is damaged, leaking or the sensor is put in another wheel.
At one time I had a list of OEM sensors that separately gave the three part numbers of the whole assembly, the sensor and the service kit.
 

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Old Feb 25, 2016 | 07:18 PM
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If the schraders work, then that's the way to go. It is critical you get the right parts for your VIN. I had so much trouble with some aftermarkets (Dorman) that were advertised to work, I just went to an online dealer and bought four factory units: From: MoparOnlineParts.com [mailto:sales@moparonlineparts.com]
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52088990AE - crossfire. $59.40 - 5% $56.43 each.



Had a helpful automotive dept manager at Sam's club install them and took car to the dealer to program. It worked, but even the dealer had some problems to overcome in the process. If it hadn't been for factory units I'm thinking they would have blamed the aftermarket parts when they ran into trouble.
 
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Old Feb 25, 2016 | 07:26 PM
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Thank you very much. I'll go with a local tire retailer who understands these issues and who can have the proper Schrader TPSM parts delivered and "activated" at the time of tire installation (given there are two possibilities for the '05's). Then, I'll drive the car to a local Chrysler dealer to have the new Schraders "synced" with the car using a DRBIII device. Please let me know if I'm missing something. Otherwise, this has been a great clarification and relief for me. I'ill follow up with a post after the process is completed to report upon results. Cheers! -Michael P.S. My next research on this forum will relate to fog lights.
 
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Old Feb 25, 2016 | 07:47 PM
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Thank you very much. I'll go with a local tire retailer who understands these issues and who can have the proper Schrader TPSM parts delivered and "activated" at the time of tire installation (given there are two possibilities for the '05's). Then, I'll drive the car to a local Chrysler dealer to have the new Schraders "synced" with the car using a DRBIII device. Please let me know if I'm missing something. Otherwise, this has been a great clarification and relief for me. I'ill follow up with a post after the process is completed to report upon results. Cheers! -Michael P.S. My next research on this forum will relate to fog lights.
You do not have to have them activated by the tire shop if they cannot set them up to work properly.
Sometimes it is just as well to get the tires and go to a dealer and have them install the tires and sensors and set them up.

I read on here where one tire shop damaged a sensor when the tires were installed and swore up and down that he did not. This was found out when the dealer could not set up the sensor to read.

 
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Old Feb 25, 2016 | 08:02 PM
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Forgot to mention mine is an SRT6. It was a sigh of relief when I finally got the tire light to go out, had been on for two years. I found out there are many false aftermarket fitment database entries for the 2005 Crossfire, what the book says will work isn't necessarily so, it varies from one TPMS mfr to the next and depends on when the car was manufactured that year. There wasn't a tire shop in my town of 2 Million people that had a handle on it. As much as I hate paying dealer prices, the risk of wrong parts and installation/deinstallation and return of parts, multiple trips to the dealer, etc forced me to a factory part. These tires and wide rims aren't so easy to handle, either. I once had a tire ruined when dismounting from the rim at NTB.
 
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Old Feb 25, 2016 | 08:31 PM
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From China with free shipping is half the cost and less.(CLICK)
They look exactly the same if the picture is to be believed.
Who's going to be the first to try?
 
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Old Feb 25, 2016 | 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by brentwasham
If the schraders work, then that's the way to go. It is critical you get the right parts for your VIN. I had so much trouble with some aftermarkets (Dorman) that were advertised to work, I just went to an online dealer and bought four factory units: From: MoparOnlineParts.com [mailto:sales@moparonlineparts.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 3:49 PM

Subject: Re: Need Tire Pressure Sensors for my VIN


52088990AE - crossfire. $59.40 - 5% $56.43 each.



Had a helpful automotive dept manager at Sam's club install them and took car to the dealer to program. It worked, but even the dealer had some problems to overcome in the process. If it hadn't been for factory units I'm thinking they would have blamed the aftermarket parts when they ran into trouble.
Sad to say but several Chrysler dealers told me wrong on my sensors via VIN. It wasn't until I went to a tire shop with a trigger device that would read frequency and signal strength to know what part I needed.
 

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The crossfire TPMS is it a clamp on or snap in sensor?
 
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