Michelin Pilot All-Season 3
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Is it just the rear tires? When I owned a Corvette in my early twenty's the rear tires only lasted 6 months of ownership.
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In Feb 2014 I put Michelin Pilot Sport A/S3 (285/30ZR-19 98Y) on the rear of my NA coupe. They have 27,775 miles on them and have a good deal of tread remaining. Five months earlier I took the car to a Mercedes dealer for an alignment. I've been very happy with the A/S3 and will probably buy the same come time for replacement. I run between 28 and 33 psi in the rear.
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The Michelin Pilot A/S 3 should get pretty good wear based on its UTQG rating of 500. But another factor in wear is the AA/A rating for traction/wear. This tires was designed by Michelin to really grip the road. Info from Tire Rack site stipulates:
"The Pilot Sport A/S 3 includes a W- and Y-speed rated Ultra High Performance All-Season tire member of Michelin's Pilot family of low profile, high-speed tires developed for the drivers of high-end sports cars, sporty coupes and sedans looking for total performance. The Pilot Sport A/S 3 tire is designed to provide Michelin's highest level of ultra-high all-season performance, emphasizing dry road handling and wet road grip while retaining all-season traction for occasional light snow."
Any tire with that much grip is going to wear. Curious that Michelin rated the tire life as 500 (which in any case is a dubious ranking) and said the tire would also have significant grip.
And based on feedback, wear on these tires is widely varied by XFire owners.
"The Pilot Sport A/S 3 includes a W- and Y-speed rated Ultra High Performance All-Season tire member of Michelin's Pilot family of low profile, high-speed tires developed for the drivers of high-end sports cars, sporty coupes and sedans looking for total performance. The Pilot Sport A/S 3 tire is designed to provide Michelin's highest level of ultra-high all-season performance, emphasizing dry road handling and wet road grip while retaining all-season traction for occasional light snow."
Any tire with that much grip is going to wear. Curious that Michelin rated the tire life as 500 (which in any case is a dubious ranking) and said the tire would also have significant grip.
And based on feedback, wear on these tires is widely varied by XFire owners.
Both are all season tires.
I have ran both of those, on 275 gmax's I got over 30k miles and did better that I thought they would in light snow, the wet traction was great.
Put on the 285 dws in November and happy so far, have not had to put them in snow like I did the Gmax but are supposed to be better, I think the Gmax is better in rain.
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My opinion these cars just eat rear tires. MB's are like that as well do to the rear camber setup. I'll be putting on my 3rd set of tires for the rear since ive owned this car, had some BFG's sport comp 2's first they lasted a year, put on some conti's and they are bald now after 1.5 years. Since ive had my car ive put about 40k on it in the 3 years ive owned it.
My current set are conti's dws all season at 285, ill be going back to stock size since the car is going to eat up the tires in year anyway. The front dont wear out as fast as the rear.
My current set are conti's dws all season at 285, ill be going back to stock size since the car is going to eat up the tires in year anyway. The front dont wear out as fast as the rear.
I use the wider tires for the better grip in winter, more contact patch, can't rotate the dsw though.
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As I DD this car though it is a tire eater even if your not hooning it. Mine wear down the middle.
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I was just shocked to get a good look at my rear tires that have only 10,000 miles on them and see they are down to the steel belt on the inside edge. The outside edges are basically bald too. The fronts look less than 50% used. I realize these are performance tires but c'mon.
How much of this is inherent to the design of the suspension and how much can I ascribe to bad alignment?
But in the meantime I'm replacing these with a tire I found at Discount Tire, the Barum Bravuris 3. Apparently owned by Continental, they are $111 each vs $275 for the Michelins. I'm fullu aware of the old saw that "you get what you pay for," but I'll be honest, I have not been a fan of the Michelin premium price vs. performance and life for a long time. The Barum Bravuris 3 have some good reviews, but not many of them. But $600 for two identical replacements means the convertible sits in the garage for a few weeks. We only drive it during the nicest weather about 3000 mile a year anyway.
If anyone is interested, I'll let you know how it turns out.
How much of this is inherent to the design of the suspension and how much can I ascribe to bad alignment?
But in the meantime I'm replacing these with a tire I found at Discount Tire, the Barum Bravuris 3. Apparently owned by Continental, they are $111 each vs $275 for the Michelins. I'm fullu aware of the old saw that "you get what you pay for," but I'll be honest, I have not been a fan of the Michelin premium price vs. performance and life for a long time. The Barum Bravuris 3 have some good reviews, but not many of them. But $600 for two identical replacements means the convertible sits in the garage for a few weeks. We only drive it during the nicest weather about 3000 mile a year anyway.
If anyone is interested, I'll let you know how it turns out.
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But in the meantime I'm replacing these with a tire I found at Discount Tire, the Barum Bravuris 3. Apparently owned by Continental, they are $111 each vs $275 for the Michelins. I'm fullu aware of the old saw that "you get what you pay for," but I'll be honest, I have not been a fan of the Michelin premium price vs. performance and life for a long time. The Barum Bravuris 3 have some good reviews, but not many of them. But $600 for two identical replacements means the convertible sits in the garage for a few weeks. We only drive it during the nicest weather about 3000 mile a year anyway.
If anyone is interested, I'll let you know how it turns out.
If anyone is interested, I'll let you know how it turns out.
Later,
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I've got 36 psig in all my tires, and quite a few Crossfire Owners run similar pressures (35-37 psig).
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I was just shocked to get a good look at my rear tires that have only 10,000 miles on them and see they are down to the steel belt on the inside edge. The outside edges are basically bald too. The fronts look less than 50% used. I realize these are performance tires but c'mon.
How much of this is inherent to the design of the suspension and how much can I ascribe to bad alignment?
But in the meantime I'm replacing these with a tire I found at Discount Tire, the Barum Bravuris 3. Apparently owned by Continental, they are $111 each vs $275 for the Michelins. I'm fullu aware of the old saw that "you get what you pay for," but I'll be honest, I have not been a fan of the Michelin premium price vs. performance and life for a long time. The Barum Bravuris 3 have some good reviews, but not many of them. But $600 for two identical replacements means the convertible sits in the garage for a few weeks. We only drive it during the nicest weather about 3000 mile a year anyway.
If anyone is interested, I'll let you know how it turns out.
How much of this is inherent to the design of the suspension and how much can I ascribe to bad alignment?
But in the meantime I'm replacing these with a tire I found at Discount Tire, the Barum Bravuris 3. Apparently owned by Continental, they are $111 each vs $275 for the Michelins. I'm fullu aware of the old saw that "you get what you pay for," but I'll be honest, I have not been a fan of the Michelin premium price vs. performance and life for a long time. The Barum Bravuris 3 have some good reviews, but not many of them. But $600 for two identical replacements means the convertible sits in the garage for a few weeks. We only drive it during the nicest weather about 3000 mile a year anyway.
If anyone is interested, I'll let you know how it turns out.
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