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changed the 'worn out' rear shocks to KYB. Still rides like an old pickup truck

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Old Jul 3, 2016 | 02:32 PM
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changed the 'worn out' rear shocks to KYB. Still rides like an old pickup truck.

Wondering if this is just the ride of the car. Finding it hard to live with.
 
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Old Jul 3, 2016 | 03:48 PM
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Default Re: changed the 'worn out' rear shocks to KYB. Still rides like an old pickup truck

You might check for broken springs, it happens. My car rides quite well even with Konis on medium stiffness.
 
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Old Jul 3, 2016 | 04:32 PM
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rear springs look fine.

Could it be that the old shocks were so worn they were soft?

Every bump is not only felt but exaggerated.
 
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Old Jul 3, 2016 | 05:30 PM
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changed the 'worn out' rear shocks to KYB. Still rides like an old pickup truck.

Wondering if this is just the ride of the car. Finding it hard to live with.
Sports car ride?

Proper road feel is when you can tell the number of legs on the bug your tire just squashed.
 
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Old Jul 3, 2016 | 05:30 PM
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Default Re: changed the 'worn out' rear shocks to KYB. Still rides like an old pickup truck

Originally Posted by brewski
rear springs look fine.

Could it be that the old shocks were so worn they were soft?

Every bump is not only felt but exaggerated.
Could it be that you are getting soft? This is not your daddy's land yacht.
 
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Old Jul 3, 2016 | 05:30 PM
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Old Jul 3, 2016 | 06:40 PM
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Default Re: changed the 'worn out' rear shocks to KYB. Still rides like an old pickup truck

When i installed them I didn't use the 'new' nut or the 'new' washer.

There was also two washers in the kit.

Are two washers required? Or is one surplus.

Does any of the above matter? Would it be contributing to 'old pickup truck like ride'.

As a side note, I have driven other similar cars - BMW z4 and it doesn't ride like an old pickup.
 
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Old Jul 3, 2016 | 09:46 PM
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Default Re: changed the 'worn out' rear shocks to KYB. Still rides like an old pickup truck

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As a side note, I have driven other similar cars - BMW z4 and it doesn't ride like an old pickup.
What would the difference be between the Z4 and an M3 for ride?
 
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Old Jul 3, 2016 | 10:58 PM
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Can anyone give me their description of the KYB install. I'm wondering given most have had a positive experience if i missed something.
 
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Old Jul 4, 2016 | 11:08 PM
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Default Re: changed the 'worn out' rear shocks to KYB. Still rides like an old pickup truck

Originally Posted by brewski
rear springs look fine.

Could it be that the old shocks were so worn they were soft?

Every bump is not only felt but exaggerated.

What are your tire pressures?
And what type of tires? Summer tires will give a harsher ride than all-season tires.
Different brands of tire will also differ in ride quality and almost all 255/35/18 (OEM Crossfire tires) are XL (meaning Extra Load).
They don't have to be for a 3050 lb Crossfire, the XL load rating is for all the heavier cars they fit, some of which are SUVS.
 

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Old Jul 5, 2016 | 12:13 AM
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Default Re: changed the 'worn out' rear shocks to KYB. Still rides like an old pickup truck

Tires are the same ones mounting on the car prior to the new shock installation.

The issue is the installation of the shocks.

The question is: Can someone advise on the installation sequence of the hardware.

Currently I have rubber on the underside of the rear shock where the pin part stars to insert into the car.

Inside - Rubber, washer nut. I re-used the washer and locking nut.
 
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Old Jul 5, 2016 | 07:29 AM
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sequence of the hardware.
It should look like this.
 
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Old Jul 5, 2016 | 10:14 AM
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Default Re: changed the 'worn out' rear shocks to KYB. Still rides like an old pickup truck

Originally Posted by ZX2 Nick
It should look like this.
I looked this up for him yesterday.

where does the rest of the car go?

The hardware is shown, but not in relation to the car.
 
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Old Jul 5, 2016 | 10:20 AM
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And, by the by, I took Friday to disassemble my rear end. Springs, control arms, swaybar mounts.

The buggy has been riding like a ....buggy. To the point I was looking at riding my bike to work.

I installed Eibach's ~ 3 years ago. BUT the rear settled too low for my tastes. And the ride went to ****.

I took it all apart-alone, greased everything I could grease, installed new 4-DOT rear spring pads, and:

it rides like the day I bought it. I found nothing wrong or broken, just dry.

Go figure.
 
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Old Jul 5, 2016 | 12:18 PM
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Default Re: changed the 'worn out' rear shocks to KYB. Still rides like an old pickup truck

Originally Posted by brewski
Tires are the same ones mounting on the car prior to the new shock installation.

The issue is the installation of the shocks.

The question is: Can someone advise on the installation sequence of the hardware.

Currently I have rubber on the underside of the rear shock where the pin part stars to insert into the car.

Inside - Rubber, washer nut. I re-used the washer and locking nut.
To answer your question; the order of installation should be in reference to the top pin, metal washer first rubber grommet second insert through the car body then rubber grommet then metal washer then nut.
 
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Old Jul 5, 2016 | 01:56 PM
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Default Re: changed the 'worn out' rear shocks to KYB. Still rides like an old pickup truck

When Car and Driver initially tested the car, they said the car had a harsh ride. I did not find that to be true with OEM shocks and if I ever change shocks I will go to Konis, set a bit to the soft side.
 
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Old Jul 6, 2016 | 12:29 AM
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To answer your question; the order of installation should be in reference to the top pin, metal washer first rubber grommet second insert through the car body then rubber grommet then metal washer then nut.
Ah, I currently have: no metal washer, first rubber grommet, insert through car, rubber grommet then metal washer and nut.

I guess I need the metal washer then the rubber grommet before the shock inserts into the rear of the car.
 
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Old Jul 6, 2016 | 04:44 AM
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Default Re: changed the 'worn out' rear shocks to KYB. Still rides like an old pickup truck

The 2 rubber bushings touch together, the metal washers make a sandwich of the bushings. Are you missing the washer on the outside?
 
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