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Old Oct 1, 2007 | 10:29 AM
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Default Traction Control and Accelerator reset

Okay, traction control first;

I understand the w/s switch on the center console and the differences they afford us in driving characteristics. My questions evolve around the so called "traction control off" button located on the center dash. The function of this button seems elusive. Traction control off it is not. On pages 142-144 of the service manual there is a rather vague description of this function. First off it is not traction control as understood on many other vehicles. It is referred to as ESP or in another words stability control. According to the manual it states that the ESP for braking is always on regardless of the position of the switch. Which for in-experienced drivers or those who do not wish to practice some of the finer points of driving, this is a good thing. The dilemma I am faced with is the other feature that also seems to be always on regardless of the switch position. I am referring to the "stability"portion of the sensors. It appears that with the ESP off I am unable to get the vehicle sideways for any length of time. In addition, to be able to heat the tires prior to a 1/4 mile run, you perform a burnout. The ESP engages (whilst in the off position) and pulls the torque as explained in the manual. I realize there are speed sensors in each wheel to monitor difference of each, but this should be disabled with the ESP off. I am able to achieve greater wheel spin with the ESP off(light illuminated) and the selector in "S" mode, but the ESP light flashes when it senses excessive spin and pulls the torque.


I am not complaining about the vehicle this is by far a well priced(even at full list), extremely well engineered an designed vehicle. No other vehicle in this price range offers such vast advantages and abilities. The SRT-8 Magnum, 300C, and Charger may be very close with speed but the lack of handling keep them from being truly a "Sports Car" and in fact are not called so by Chrysler. They are merely sporty sedans. I am not dumping on them at all. They are very fast Sporty Sedans and my personal favorite of the 3 is the 300C. That car is beautiful!!. Back on topic. My only complaint is I would like to be able to have full control when asked. If I detent or select off for ESP I expect it to be OFF!.

Question!!!



On the 2003 Dodge Ram 1500 with the 5.7 hemi, it was possible to remove a wire which connected the PCM and TCM. This wire allowed the TCM(Torque Control Management) to send information to the PCM that excessive torque was experienced and to pull the timing/fuel. Has any aftermarket company been able to completely remove the ESP functions, and has anyone on this forum had the opportunity to get their SRT-6 to keep wheel spin up and drift a bit in the corners? I don't mean a little bit but really drift. I was able to get the car to do a complete 2 revolutions (donuts for most of you) within the first week of purchase but since the car has become fairly tame. I also own a 2004 Dodge ram quad cab 4x4 with he Hemi. I understand the idea of the "smart tranny" or adaptable transmission. I have done the reset of the accelerator 3 times and have not seen an appreciable difference. The vehicle has 2,500 miles and does not have any codes.


I welcome all opinions on the matter. I am just a little frustrated with some of the limitations.


Leadfoot


Oh and btw, the fastest 1/4 mile on my completely stock SRT-6 with the all-season tires. is 12.732 @ 110 mph trap speed Temp 52F with humidity @ 42%. Temp and humidity are the biggest thieves of HP. This was last week in NH. If I can have my scanner running I will post the pic of the time slip.

The SRT-6 is truly a fine machine! I enjoy every ride. I also own 3 stangs and 04 dodge quad cab with the hemi, my wife has a Ford Freestyle and an Audi TT. I like cars, I like to rebuild cars, and most of all I love to race cars.
 

Last edited by LEADFOOT; Oct 1, 2007 at 10:32 AM.
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