Its good to have the awd pacifica in the garage too!i spent 26 years in the roselle area. So i consider myself an experienced snow driver, and last year, on business in chicago, i felt like a 16 yr old kid trying to drive my roadster on icy streets. I was glad to make it home in one piece. The crossfire does many wonderful things, but winter transportation is not one of them. Btw it was top down, 68 and sunny here in arkansas yesterday. Sorry about that.