Thanks for the detailed response. It sounds like I probably made the right choice for my preferences then. Two things you mentioned that would drive me nuts are the next song when shuffling and the pause.

The harman-kardon has a **** that poses as the circle on the front of the iPod and works the same way, so a single touch to the bottom button acts as pause.



A single touch to the right button goes to the next song in whatever mode you're in - the next shuffled song if you're in shuffle mode, and the next song in order if you're in artist/album/genre mode.

It would be nice to have less gear but those two things would drive me nuts!

I guess the other thing that's nice about the harman-kardon is the support for another aux channel that is controlled by the **** - I run the XM through it, though I know there's an XM accessory for the Pioneer too. But I already had an XM tuner and it works plugged in direct (no FM modulation for me) so I think it's down to preference.

I loaded several shots of the Crossfire into the Pioneer display and from time to time switch to some of the other ones - have you tried the "vehicle dynamics" display with Tach, G-force etc stuff? Not sure it's really showing real-time data but it sure makes passengers think twice!

Here's the updated shot after I put in the Pioneer.