I ordered mine from buybrakes or brakeworld... don't remmber, but definatly not some ebay guy...

Maybe I expected a little too much from them.. but after replacing my worn pads with them... at around 26k miles, I expected the pads to at least perform better cause they are new... but that did not happen.. also they are not as quiet and definatly not a track pad.... less so than even the stock pads...

Think of it like this... they do what they are advertised to do and that is it... they minimize the dust so if that is what you want, then your buying the right pads, but if you want an all in one solution and a brake pad upgrade they are not it...