Been a member of this forum for some time now and am getting considererably annoyed by companyies promoting their products on an enthusiasts site.

Either tip in some money to help the guys run this thing or go away.

The main result has been second rate products, people ripping people off, or "expert "opinions with no explanation, facts, or supporting documentation.

Even better are no registered business names, no ability to check the companies out with the BBB , Chamber of Commerce or other organisations and most operating out of residential adresses.

Everybody has friends in "High" places but you dont promote your wares on a community forum that is called ethics.

Frankly if your business is that good run a good web page and place advertisments in the appropriate press. Sure monitor what is said on forums and use that to develope products but please keep this an "open" forum.

Example HDDP has done a lot of work on his car are is a valuable source of information and experimentation, doesn't do it for money just passes on his experience for the good of the forum.

Pointing fingers, jumping up and down. END OF VENT