yeah I agree. The Audi is impressive. Maybe the smaller 300C will be out by the time I get my car (doubtful but I can dream!). I made a thread about the S4 in the "Other Cars" forum so head on over there if you have more goodies to deal. I found out some great info from Bullfrog. Thanks again Guys! Oh and Dan is actually on to something. I saw artist "rendering" of two future 300 spinoffs (convertible and coupe). It'll be exciting to see what happens.