Marc.... All I'm saying is that if they are such Hot stuff, why haven't I seen any at any SCCA events? We have the SCCA South East Regionals here this weekend and not a single TT is registered and there are 182 cars registered. (unfortunately I will be up in Mass. for my Bride's High School reunion this weekend.... 1st Autocross I've missed since last January). The tests that Road & Track did put the Crossfire ahead of the TT on the Drag strip and the Slalom. The 350Z is also in BS and they only do well if they are on "R" compound tires. I personally have not come across a TT that wanted to try me. I would be happy to check it out for myself... If there are any TT owners in the Tidewater area of Virginia that would like to see which car is best.... Bring it out. I'm not Dan and will run you just for the fun of it.